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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:18 pm
by Asteria
If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:18 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2299, InsidiousLemons wrote:DkKoba grasping at straws trying to make their claim make any goddamn sense
lol u are such obvious scum here

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:18 pm
by DkKoba
let me shoot lemons

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:19 pm
by Asteria
Koba, what is your read on vfp now?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:20 pm
by DkKoba
im unsure - i thought they were confscum but i realized that was too hasty and i need to reeval that.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:20 pm
by DkKoba
like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:21 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2285, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2283, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@datisi

hypothetically if a weak vig were to target a mafia player and the vig was roleblocked, does the weak vig die?
this one is a yes
You're confusing me like hell!
Please explain to me again, why you're alive if you think
VFP
is scum? Why do you think the mafia doc saved you but not
VFP
??

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:21 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2289, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this game is wild

why would you think a neapo has a gun
For some weird, indescribable, illogical, alien reasons (I don't know why, brain is completely shut for rl reasons), I was thinking gun indicates killer roles only :oops: :oops:

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:22 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2290, Asteria wrote:
In post 2255, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2158, Asteria wrote:
In post 2155, Andante wrote:so if you don't out it, and your claim is real. you are dead tonight...
Yes, I understand that. I'll out it before I die unless a dayvig swoops in and kills me
There is no day vig in this set-up?? :?
You don't know that??
That's why asking, do normal setup games have day vig?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:23 pm
by Asteria
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:23 pm
by DkKoba
dayvigs are normal but no one uses them bc theyre swingy iirc

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:24 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:25 pm
by DkKoba
you have to understand like from my pov i am thinking of my role as a role that mafia is equipped to nullify. in a setup like this where maf confirmed have a doc you should expect a vig to exist - i am the only one - so occam's razor should tell you my claim is likely legit.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:25 pm
by Asteria
In post 2308, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2290, Asteria wrote:
In post 2255, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2158, Asteria wrote:
In post 2155, Andante wrote:so if you don't out it, and your claim is real. you are dead tonight...
Yes, I understand that. I'll out it before I die unless a dayvig swoops in and kills me
There is no day vig in this set-up?? :?
You don't know that??
That's why asking, do normal setup games have day vig?
I see what you mean. Pretty sure they don't

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:25 pm
by Asteria
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
They? You mean you were roleblocked?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:26 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2297, DkKoba wrote:2 maf doc + 1 maf rolestopper/roleblocker
Then why the town has only one killer role??

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:26 pm
by DkKoba
rolestopped = any incoming actions get roleblocked

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:27 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2300, Asteria wrote:If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns
How?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:27 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2301, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2299, InsidiousLemons wrote:DkKoba grasping at straws trying to make their claim make any goddamn sense
lol u are such obvious scum here
Wut??

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:27 pm
by Asteria
In post 2312, DkKoba wrote:you have to understand like from my pov i am thinking of my role as a role that mafia is equipped to nullify. in a setup like this where maf confirmed have a doc you should expect a vig to exist - i am the only one - so occam's razor should tell you my claim is likely legit.
Yes. And I get that doc nullifies vig. But you're saying a roleblocker. And we're in territory where for your claim to exist there needs to be two scum without guns. Meaning 2 docs or a doc and a traitor

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:28 pm
by DkKoba
i dont think 2 scum docs is a crazy combination

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:29 pm
by Asteria
In post 2315, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2297, DkKoba wrote:2 maf doc + 1 maf rolestopper/roleblocker
Then why the town has only one killer role??
This is valid. We would need 2 killing roles for 2 docs to make sense. And I don't think we have anymore based on flips from last night

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:29 pm
by Asteria
In post 2317, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2300, Asteria wrote:If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns
How?
Me+Andante+Koba = 3 for town
2 mafia roles that are not traitor/doc = 2 for scum

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:30 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:31 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2312, DkKoba wrote:you have to understand like from my pov i am thinking of my role as a role that mafia is equipped to nullify. in a setup like this where maf confirmed have a doc you should expect a vig to exist - i am the only one - so occam's razor should tell you my claim is likely legit.
i think there's a vig in this setup, absolutely. and the fact no other vig has shown up to CC you does lend you some credibility. i just found the circumstances of the claim incredibly scummy -- why ask what would happen if you claimed GS? why fish around for which PR claims already existed before deciding what to claim? and yes the maf doc is equipped to nullify you, but that clearly isn't what happened since you're still alive.

i think i'm convincing myself that your claim is legit, and i think my earlier theory of odd night RB/even night doc is probably correct. would still like the above questions answered though