Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[xRECKONERx]

Hell fire and brimstone

[GreyICE]

Seriously, Anatole, put aside your hurt feelings. Look at the logic.

You don't bus your Roleblocker on day 1. That's shit play, literally anything could be in the town, including a cop+protective role. He town reads Myko out of nowhere.

SSK just lurks all the time, though, I don't think it's alignment indicative.

I really wish MafiaSSK wouldn't sign up to play games. :\ I know he's lurking and that's normal but it's still unfair to have a completely inactive slot.

Versus Farside's hard defense of SSK? Who is lightly shoving suspicion away from a wagon while avoiding fallout if he does get lynched? Who is putting themselves in the crosshairs for a town read?

Want a kicker?

Please, PLEASE read Mykonian's ISO before and after #2121: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p6275019

Tell me if you see a tone shift. Tell me what you think that means.

[xRECKONERx]

Farside did the hedge your bets thing too by using meta

[GreyICE]

Look at my play. Look at how I play the game. I can't answer for Farside. I can answer for myself.

I am town, I locked myself in this 1v1 by choice. Why the fuck would I do so if Farside had pissed you off? Why why why why why why why would I ever ever ever kill Flubber?

Use your head! Read my posts an use your heart! PLEASE

[GreyICE]

These are the facts. Reckoner wishes to crucify me based on farside's reads. He brings up farside every time he posts.

I cannot explain Farside's posts. It is literally impossible. If she was here, maybe she would. Or maybe she would have thrown the game away by sheeping Mykonian. But for fucks sake, you can talk to me. Do so.

[xRECKONERx]

Woooow.

Also look at farsides replace out, it was entirely a construction and not genuine. She was flustered by lylo pressure. And now conveniently I can't push Grey for things farside did because he's a new player. It's so fucking obvious, and it's the only reason the hail Mary is working

[GreyICE]

Hey Reck, answer me directly. Would Flubber have voted you in LyLo?

[xRECKONERx]

Not immediately, no.

[xRECKONERx]

I don't know where he would have ended up but he wouldn't have come out guns blazing, ESPECIALLY after my interactions with myko yesterday. Why the hell would I jump on myko outta nowhere when Anatole was a possible lynch, esp with farside SCUM READING ANATOLE

[Anatole Kuragin]

[GreyICE]

I don't know where he would have ended up but he wouldn't have come out guns blazing, ESPECIALLY after my interactions with myko yesterday. Why the hell would I jump on myko outta nowhere when Anatole was a possible lynch, esp with farside SCUM READING ANATOLE

Farside wasn't in the game for most of yesterday.

Now, let me ask you a question. You're town, right? If you are in a 3 person LyLo and farside is scum, you have to anticipate the other person is flubber. He's wanted you dead for days. So your game is going to come down to who flubber votes.

Reckoner, you never once addressed Flubber yesterday.

Your game theoretically rode on his opinion of you, and you never talked to him.

Reckoner, you knew he would be dead. You discounted him, because you knew he would be dead.

[Anatole Kuragin]

ICE's pretentious demeanor rubs me the wrong way so I would be a little upset if I gave him a scum win on the back of a tactical replace out, but the flubber kill doesn't make sense from that slot. Reck's ISO is a bit more attuned to myko, farside's to SSK. Hard choice.

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: reck

[Anatole Kuragin]

sorry if it's wrong

[GreyICE]

Town win

[Anatole Kuragin]

gg everybody

[Anatole Kuragin]

sorry for the shit cases against csar, espresso, matt, etc. I've been playing like shit lately

[GreyICE]

Hey, you voted right when it mattered.

Thanks for looking past Farside's shit cases on you, and my gut instinct that said throwing a vote in LyLo tends to be town.

[Anatole Kuragin]

sorry for all the mean stuff directed at farside and espresso - I'm trying to change my attitude in game because it's not at all who I want to be. I have just been getting really frustrated when people scumread me as town, especially based on bad meta reasoning and I let it get personal.

[Anatole Kuragin]

your replace-in saved this game for town, ICE - I think you and matt could probably share MVP

[GreyICE]

Yeah, it's hard not to sometimes (and sometimes the attacks cross the line from "X is playing like scum" to "X is a crappy person").

And thank you. I got to try out some of my theories on LyLo, namely that one of the reasons that towns fare so poorly is that it's exactly when the townie spirit collapses, and people start to just run on paranoia. I chose to trust flubber because he read super town.

Which, by the by, he might be low activity, but his reads... my god.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Yeah, if Flubber had been a little more vocal/active and if I had been less spammy, allowing scum to stay under the radar, this game would have been a lot easier I think.

[xRECKONERx]

Blegh, game was lost when we got SSK as our buddy. Farside's last second replace out really fucked us as well, and I think it's actually legitimately shady that it happened, because I spent literally all game crafting my LYLO plan around farside's lynch, and then that replace out and Grey's replace in fucking shit all over something I had worked all game to prepare. It's really unfortunate and something I hadn't considered until now could be potentially integrity-breaking. :\

@Belisarius: You were killed because you were pretty neutral, and we wanted to remain as neutral as possible early on. I honestly don't remember much about you this game, sorry. :\

@vezokpiraka: You've certainly improved over your olden days. It actually hurt to vote you a little bit... and I

seriously

didn't know I was hammering. Whoops. I thought I could tie you down to SSK but went about it the wrong way.

@MafiaSSK: Fuck you, stop playing games you useless fuck.

@Anatole: I didn't keep you in LYLO because you are stupid or anything, I kept you around because I literally had to shoot Flubber. We thought you were a pretty solid player who we would have a hard time getting lynched. Don't worry about your play, it was fine, especially seeing through my bullshit in LYLO.

@mykonian: We tried our best. :\ I tried to play a pretty typical scumgame which meant mostly ignoring you because I always wind up getting dragged into horrible arguments with my scumbuddies and bussing awkardly. I really thought Grey would hammer me, not you, in LYLO yesterday, and I think you could've done much better in my spot, here. The vote on you was something I never expected to lead to a lynch, so my bad on that one.

@TSO: Well played, man. Maybe tone down the emotionalness a bit, but you were pretty terrifying and I was consistently paranoid that you'd flip around on me and read me correctly. Lucky that we had to kill you anyway, because you were coming up to be the next shot on the list.

@Espressojet: Thanks for being mislynchable

@Csareo: You kinda sealed your own fate with your play, so of course I took advantage of it. I don't think you should blame anyone else for your lynch, though, because you had enough weaknesses to poke and prod at and that's why you went down. The goal of town isn't to not get lynched, it's to win the game, so in a way your lynch helped you win.

@Flubbernugget: Damn, man. It's really hard to deal with someone who lurks as much as you, because you're not a threat, but your reads were dead on... we couldn't kill you, and we couldn't lynch you. Tough spot. You could be an top tier, great player if you tried a bit harder and cut down on lurking/fluff and started learning to build real cases on people.

@farside: That replace out was really fucking shady, and after all the bile you spewed my way this game, I find it weird that you'd replace out because I was attacking your posting style. I wasn't the only one attacking it, by the way, and I wasn't being mean. Your posts ARE very hard to read because you don't use proper grammar or spelling, and you type very scatterbrainy. Instead of getting upset about it, you should think about improving on it, IMO.

@MattP: Town MVP. I haven't laughed as hard as I did when you were having a stroke over the town's idiocy in a loooong time. You obviously had to die, because you were a strong power role and also starting to waiver in your read on me. Always a pleasure playing with you.

@Grey: Not much to say here. You replaced into a slot in LYLO and had a fresh take on the game and I have no problems with you, I just think farside's replacement was bullshit anyway.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Thanks, reck. GG dude. Unfortunate about SSK and the replacement. Not going to pass judgment on the conditions surrounding it or what was going through farside's head when she backed out, but it's a fact that greyICE coming in may very well have changed the course of the game.

[T S O]

GG all - well fucking played, Anatole, that was probably the toughest LyLo I've ever seen.