Mini 2032: TAZ Mafia: Murder on the Rockport Limited [over]

[skitter30]

things feel kinda wrong rn

i don't like that people are just going along with this and that the game has just kinda gone silent and that i have to like pull reactions out of people; it kinda makes me think that scum are content to just let me get the lynch i want

i don't like the way gamma hopped on

i don't like the fact that i have no idea what shoshin is thinking

[skitter30]

VOTE: no lynch

[skitter30]

Gamma just waiting for someone else to vote and hopping on immediately thereafter is also, especially since he's been doing that for like the last two dayphases

well believe it or not scum will do that

i don't like nos shading gamma's vote either

[skitter30]

gacha vote

: porkens

in case nsg is scum

i kinda want to FOS all of you, and since you presumably aren't all scum this is making the game kinda hard for me to solve

i kinda need people to talk to me; otherwise i just talk myself into things and if i'm wrong scum just let me do my own thing and i'm kinda getting that vibe rn

[Shoshin]

I don't understand what you want to talk about, Skitter.

Gamma is town

I'm town.

Questioning those reads isn't helpful at this point.

From your perspective, the scum are between NSG, Nos, and Pork.

From my perspective, the scum are between NSG, Nos, Pork, or you.

I have to read through your games, and until I do that, I don't really have much else to say.

Are you sure Pork is town? If so, why? If you think Pork is town, then you should be certain that NSG & Nos are scum.

[skitter30]

like scum them would require:
*shoshin performed the nk n1
* gamma targeted his partner with the fruit
* shoshin swapped herself and me
* shoshin targeted herself for the nk

for the known night actions ot make sense and the last two are kinda ????? unlikely

just gamma scum means:
* unknown partner did the nk n1 (perhaps nsg)
* he sent the fruit to shoshin, who he was also planning on killing? (but it inadvertantly ended up at me because of switcheroo)
* he claims to have protected *someone* to explain the nk before the switcheroo comes out


just shoshin scum means:
* idk who did hte nk n1
* if we assume town!gamma, he protected shoshin and gave her fruit and it ended up at me, which means scum!shoshin swapped me/herself. it seems the protect saved the nk and since he healed shoshin (and thus me) it looks like the nk target was shoshin (and thus me) which is kinda unlikely if she is scum

i'm pretty sure you aren't scum together
i don't have a good reason to rule out each of you independently

i don't particularly townread porkens but i think he isn't scum with gamma emerald (i'm a little paranoid of like a traitor or something; i don't townread him on play but rather on associatives)

i just don't really want to be wrong in mylo; i have a pretty good track record of getting xylo right and i don't want to ruin it

[skitter30]

*porkens isn't scum with gammagooey

[skitter30]

also on some level i don't really want to be wrong in mylo on nsg

[northsidegal]

if you guys are going to lynch me after rc called me locktown multiple times, shoshin has essentially prodged today after promising amazing reads yesterday and gamma has pretended to play the game then this town deserves to lose. that's not even talking about actually lynching today instead of no-lynching.

if i get lynched and someone gets a lucky doc protect or something it's gamma / shoshin.

[northsidegal]

"explain NSG"

you know full well that your choices are to call me scum or accept NSG as town.

I can't believe NSG is more town than me. That's absurd.

I can read NSG better than you

You said yourself I have never seen your scum game

[skitter30]

i mean he was also scumreading you earlier + you're actively pushing gamma rn + gammagooey has a partner-y interaction with rc calling you scum

[northsidegal]

skitter you said it doesn't make sense for me to think gamma is scum and also say that rc's townread clears me

even if you think we're both scum it still makes sense to lynch him first. also on a personal level rc would bus me if we were scum together rather than trying to clear me. i know this because that's what i would ask him to do and because something similar happened before when we rolled scum as a hydra. he could've ghostwritten posts for me but he didn't because it just made more sense for him to take control of the game himself.

[northsidegal]

pedit indeed

[skitter30]

if you guys are going to lynch me after rc called me locktown multiple times,

shoshin has essentially prodged today after promising amazing reads yesterday and gamma has pretended to play the game then this town deserves to lose. that's not even talking about actually lynching today instead of no-lynching.

if i get lynched and someone gets a lucky doc protect or something it's gamma / shoshin.

bolded however i agree with because i kinda feel like i'm practically playing this game by myself and i kinda just want to end it so i don't have to spend the next two weeks pulling reactions out of people and just wondering if people are telling me what i want to hear

also gamma/shoshin logistically makes no sense

[northsidegal]

also gamma/shoshin logistically makes no sense

why not

[skitter30]

like scum them would require:
*shoshin performed the nk n1
* gamma targeted his partner with the fruit
* shoshin swapped herself and me
* shoshin targeted herself for the nk

i know you disagree that scum had to have nk'd last night

what do u think happened n1?

[skitter30]

do you bus as scum?

[northsidegal]

i honestly have no idea. maybe scum really did no-kill for some reason. maybe they all lurked it out and forgot to submit a kill. both are things that i've actually seen happen before and subsequently send town into a wild goose chase later trying to explain the discrepancy. if i had to guess i would put at as one of those. all i know is that it doesn't make me scum

[northsidegal]

do you bus as scum?

there was a point a decent amount into my career where i had yet to cast a vote against a scumbuddy

pretty sure that's no longer true but i don't really remember any of my most recent scumgames

[skitter30]

for the two of them to be scum together we'd need: gamma to target his partner, who then swapped herself and me, so that he'd ultimatley target me, and then have shoshin target her partner to me

and then not do the nk and/or target shoshin (ie me)

and just like .... why do that?

[northsidegal]

is there some reason not to? because your last line is explicitly a reason

to

[skitter30]

do you bus as scum?

t

here was a point a decent amount into my career where i had yet to cast a vote against a scumbuddy

pretty sure that's no longer true but i don't really remember any of my most recent scumgames

ok this is what i was getting at.

besides for nos you've only voted people who flipped; incidentally all of those people flipped town
and what i wanted to check is as scum if you really avoid pushing your partners like at all

this is part of my BOP thing with you - have you had towngames where you've never pushed scum in xylo?

[northsidegal]

it's not like anything was really sacrificed from that sequence of events. a fruit vend is pretty useless and unless they were concerned about some remaining investigative or something then using what they have in a series of events designed such that the complicated nature of things makes it look like they're not partnered is just the smart thing to do.

[skitter30]

is there some reason not to? because your last line is explicitly a reason

to

idk it just seems like a convoluted mess and idk why anybody would bother with that

[skitter30]

do you bus as scum?

t

here was a point a decent amount into my career where i had yet to cast a vote against a scumbuddy

pretty sure that's no longer true but i don't really remember any of my most recent scumgames

ok this is what i was getting at.

besides for nos you've only voted people who flipped; incidentally all of those people flipped town
and what i wanted to check is as scum if you really avoid pushing your partners like at all

this is part of my BOP thing with you - have you had towngames where you've never pushed scum in xylo?

*never knowingly voted scum in xylo