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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:14 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i paired with her because i told her flat out i could easily read her if she played with me
in the dance thread she said fuck off you can't read me i refuse to engage with you at all so I suicided, and even then i didn't suicide to take her out i suicided to make a point of firebringer being scum.
we have been TvT in 2 games where she did not completely refuse to work with me and I openly hard townread her in one and never gave a read on her in the other (but I did townread her)
the other game she was scum, team mafia, i absolutely murdered her.
my read on her is p reliable whether she believed it before this game or not.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:16 pm
by RadiantCowbells
that said i think that the play here is to kill mariastral and if double town then we have very good odds that cakez/mala gets us a scums
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:17 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2325, RadiantCowbells wrote:i paired with her because i told her flat out i could easily read her if she played with me
in the dance thread she said fuck off you can't read me i refuse to engage with you at all so I suicided, and even then i didn't suicide to take her out
i suicided to make a point of firebringer being scum.
that last part isn't true
you told me post game that you thought i was scum but suicided because lld wasn't cooperating and had to be cleared because she was playing to scum win.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:17 pm
by Firebringer
meh i don't feel like arguing history
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:17 pm
by Dunnstral
oh god me being conftown in this game would be complete cancer
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p9456218
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:20 pm
by Dunnstral
How about you start expecting LLD to be a human being then tell me to get over myself.
Like you're delusional if what you're thinking is "lld probably wouldn't expect me to push her" when you post stuff like this
Hey rc? get over yourself
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:21 pm
by Firebringer
dunn this aint helping
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:22 pm
by Dunnstral
..I think lld expected rc to push on her early
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:23 pm
by Firebringer
yeah i get that, and i agree but the way ur presenting it was going a little too far.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:24 pm
by Dunnstral
I'm not going to let RC bully this game uncontested anymore
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:51 pm
by MariaR
Alright let's get cracking woo no more depression!
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:52 pm
by MariaR
I feel like your interactions with LLD can be seen as scum. I did have a pause when you stopped pushing me but I think I'll forever want your slot lynched given how you and gamma are playing. Not that the play is bad it's just hard/not progressing my read on you guys (more so gamma then you) so yeah I think you guys flipping helps me the most at the moment but that can change on the catch up let's see
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:00 pm
by MariaR
It's NAI imo he had to act like a newbie because that was the whole point of being an alt. I suppose I could give his iso a closer look knowing that his reads hold more merit as a vet but the only way it would be a red flag to me is if he used his "I'm new" status to avoid doing stuff. Given he didn't expect to be caught that holds a lot more weight given he'd be outright lying. If he's not doing that it's prob town if he was prob scum.
Why do you believe Bri? I've been slightly sring him and while I admit I kinda forget the main reason of the scumread given I noped from mafia for a bit it was still a thing. So I'd like to know what makes you townread him so hard.
Look at this hard pocket SUPER SCUMMY! Ugh I'm so so good at this game
In post 2092, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t really have anything specific but I know he plays more serious as scum
Which game did you read?
He trolled my game as scum but that could be because he told me he hated my game so didn't want to take it srsly.
In post 2095, Dunnstral wrote:Maria is town by the way
If fire/gamma are town we need to think of where else we are looking, and right now I'm looking at sircakez and shortaru
Why are you tring me
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:01 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2337, MariaR wrote:but the only way it would be a red flag to me is if he used his "I'm new" status to avoid doing stuff.
Which he did, by the way, and I can point out where
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:01 pm
by MariaR
I'm open to Dunn being scum btw if anyone wants to know. I faked some ate in our PT to see his reaction and it wasn't really the best. He got super aggro and his explanation turned into the blame game. I'm not gonna kill ourself first dance but given Dunn hasn't been super towny to me is a iffy sign.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:01 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1918, shortaru wrote: In post 1916, SirCakez wrote:Where was this dislike pre-dance? Seems very sudden which really irks me.
I pretty much had this game tuned out pre-dance because I was wrapping up my newbie game (perfect town win, fun times) and you experienced players were talking a bunch of stuff I couldn't begin to relate to anyway.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:01 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2339, MariaR wrote:He got super aggro and his explanation turned into the blame game.
This didn't happen
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:03 pm
by Dunnstral
Here's what happened: Maria got mad because I "forced" her to pair with me, I pointed out that sircakez was reserved for moment, and kokichi had picked a dance partner already: her choices for pairs at the time where me or karmeleon
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:05 pm
by MariaR
Considering how empty our pt is I wanna see this! Lurker dunn isn't fun and much harder to read.
O H B O Y
In post 2125, Firebringer wrote:RC hasn't really explained reads this game. I wouldn't expect him to answer ur questions nancy
Big oof
Why? What about LLD reactions makes you think I'm scum Sakura? We know it's hard for you to read me given you flip on me a lot so I wanna prove to you that you're incorrect. I really have no idea what interactions with LLD make you go "yup that's a partner with Maria" Can you go quote them for me?
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:06 pm
by MariaR
In post 2342, Dunnstral wrote:Here's what happened: Maria got mad because I "forced" her to pair with me, I pointed out that sircakez was reserved for moment, and kokichi had picked a dance partner already: her choices for pairs at the time where me or karmeleon
You did though you got so mad like "oh don't blame me for this!" It was so funny. I was praying you'd do an overly towny reaction but I didn't get that from the rxn test. Shame
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:08 pm
by Sakura Hana
In post 2343, MariaR wrote:Why? What about LLD reactions makes you think I'm scum Sakura? We know it's hard for you to read me given you flip on me a lot so I wanna prove to you that you're incorrect. I really have no idea what interactions with LLD make you go "yup that's a partner with Maria" Can you go quote them for me?
In post 1902, Sakura Hana wrote: In post 288, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I think Maria<->Cakez is a good pairing.
I also think Dunnstral<->
LLD
is a good pairing.
Because frankly 1) I think all four of those names are town now seeing their posting
and 2) I think all four of those names are entirely unafraid of killing themselves to kill the other if they get the slightest hint of them being scum.
I do want to run it by other people's reads, specifically interested in our confirmed town's perspective on things, but yeah I think those are a few good pairings.
I keep coming back to this post all the time for some reason.
In post 1903, Sakura Hana wrote:So let's assume MariaR is scum:
LLD's suggested pairings would be
MariaR
x Cakez
LLD
x Dunnstral
But MariaR didnt get Cakez and LLD died, but regardless I recall something about 2x scum pairing being dangerous and we also got
MariaR
x Dunnstral
Dunnstral most likely town due to this (specially coz LLD wanted to pair with him), Cakez is a townlean, i doubt LLD didnt try to arrange 2 partners into townblocky pairs, of course, Cakez could also be scum instead of MariaR, or LLD might just gone with just settling herself in, so there's room for error, but that's what im going for atm.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:11 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2344, MariaR wrote:
In post 2342, Dunnstral wrote:Here's what happened: Maria got mad because I "forced" her to pair with me, I pointed out that sircakez was reserved for moment, and kokichi had picked a dance partner already: her choices for pairs at the time where me or karmeleon
You did though you got so mad like "oh don't blame me for this!" It was so funny. I was praying you'd do an overly towny reaction but I didn't get that from the rxn test. Shame
Literally lying in the main thread right now, it's not amusing
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:16 pm
by MariaR
Wendy's has like bottom tier fries wtf is wrong with you.
In post 2185, RadiantCowbells wrote:If I thought that lynching her forwarded a town win condition despite her herself being town I'd have lynched her anyway, I'd just have phrased it differently.
Na you would've lynched LLD regardless tbh it's just a good thing she was obv scum this game.
In post 2199, RadiantCowbells wrote:You try to win this game by not sabotaging the overall plan that makes sense and both you and Maria have advocated sabotaging the plan so from where I'm standing you're not trying to win the game, you're at best trying to assert your individuality over trying to win and at worst are just scum.
There is no set way to win the game and you know this is just your ego posting. I could go into more detail but I'm in a good mood and I don't wanna drag ya down.
I was about to call Gamma's unvote towny and then this happened. Could be trying to make 2 townvtown wagons going because he knows me and dunn will still be a lynch option? That would assume Dunn is town hm hm.
In post 2218, ChibiBear wrote:I actually think Mala is town now. LLD was advocating for her to be left out altogether and it seems like she was just going for an easy target.
Aren't people voting the Cakez/Mala pair because of Cakez? I think Mala is pretty obv town
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:16 pm
by Firebringer
we have a lovers quarrel now boys
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:17 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2336, MariaR wrote:
I feel like your interactions with LLD can be seen as scum. I did have a pause when you stopped pushing me but I think I'll forever want your slot lynched given how you and gamma are playing. Not that the play is bad it's just hard/not progressing my read on you guys (more so gamma then you) so yeah I think you guys flipping helps me the most at the moment but that can change on the catch up let's see
that seems fair.
i don't have a read on gamma either and don't think i ever will get a read.