In post 2198, RCEnigma wrote:Can we get chickadee today and DGB tomorrow? If I need the puppy dog eyes ok but...
No.
Chick/Clem seems to be a LHF push based on activity
The thing is town!Chick fights like hell to get votes off of her. She wasn’t really too upset about the votes on her, before she replaced out. However, I’m not sure if I necessarily see the scum motivation in her Creature push but Chick replacing out rather than doing anything about her wagon, makes me wonder.
I
guess
I can see this...?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:18 pm
by Creature
Gamma, why are you town?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:18 pm
by Creature
I remember like exactly zero things about you this game
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:18 pm
by Creature
Did you just replace in?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:19 pm
by Creature
Ugh, I can do fairly well identifying town, but not scum
In post 2319, DrewVa wrote:I will switch my vote to avoid a no lynch. I mean that, Tails trying to suggest that I was some kind of scum savant, was ridiculous.
Maybe.
But it wasn't scummy.
Read the room - that wagon is dead on arrival.
Do you oppose the Bujabber wagon?
No, why do you think Bujaber is a better lynch than Clem?
In post 2319, DrewVa wrote:I will switch my vote to avoid a no lynch. I mean that, Tails trying to suggest that I was some kind of scum savant, was ridiculous.
Maybe.
But it wasn't scummy.
Read the room - that wagon is dead on arrival.
Do you oppose the Bujabber wagon?
No, why do you think Bujaber is a better lynch than Clem?
If you don't oppose a Bujabber wagon - why not put your vote there instead of leaving it on a wagon that assuredly won't go through - you'bve already 'established your scumread' so now you can instead do something useful with your vote.
I don't explicitly think Bujabber is a better wagon. However it is a less supported wagon, and I'd like to explore that a bit more and maybe get some people to take sides. With votes. Now. Instead of just waiting on the sidelines and then helping us avoid no lynch by voting Clem.
In post 2284, BuJaber wrote:Gamma I would have switched to DGB if I thought there was enough time to lynch that slot but it seems futile. Why don't you like the clem wagon?
What changed from the time DGB was one of the leading wagons to now? There was absolutely a chance to wagon DGB and it fell apart pretty quickly.
She was vaguely scummy before, but she continued not to post solidifying the read. And I didn't really sense that a lot of people were willing to vote her at any point during the game. Did you notice a time in which there was?
In post 2280, BuJaber wrote:People scumreading DrewVa do you have scum meta of Nancy being aggressive and all up in people's business? Because it feels like she took a confidence booster shot between overkill 1 and 2.
I know her meta arguments are pretty weak and her perspective seems severely biased I just don't see it being scummy for her.
Are you claiming scum Nancy is never aggressive/town Nancy is aggressive?
Neither. I'm asking for confirmation that she can have this much range in her confidence or an explanation for her change in approach from overkill 1. My impression was that it's more than a playstyle thing it's a personality thing which is much harder to change from game to game.
I think this is more likely to come from town though.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:24 pm
by Creature
I'll probably just go with Clemency
that's annoying because getting 14 votes to lynch someone is freaking annoying and scum can easily avoid the lynch by refusing to vote each other
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:24 pm
by Creature
hence why plurality lynches should be default for games bigger than 17 players
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:26 pm
by Thor665
In post 2334, DrewVa wrote:I think this is more likely to come from town though.
Why?
I can't even understand his actual stance and direction besides kind of loosely questioning people who want to lynch you. It sounded like a defence until I asked him about it and he sort of jibber-jabbered it into a null comment. Why does that look town?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:28 pm
by Thor665
In post 2336, Creature wrote:hence why plurality lynches should be default for games bigger than 17 players
Nah, if town can't get heads out of butts that's on them.
And if you think it's an actual issue - then just wait a few phases and it sorts itself.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:36 pm
by Creature
After a few nolynches sure, but scum still will hold the same ammount of votes most likely.
The heat is on, on the street
Inside your head, on every beat
And the beat's so loud, deep inside
The pressure's high, just to stay alive
'Cause the heat is on
The shadows high on the darker side
Behind the doors, it's a wilder ride
You can make a break, you can win or lose
That's a chance you take, when the heat's on you
When the heat is on
Oh-wo-ho, oh-wo-ho
Caught up in the action I've been looking out for you
Oh-wo-ho, oh-wo-ho
(Tell me can you feel it)
(Tell me can you feel it)
(Tell me can you feel it)
The heat is on (yeah) the heat is on, the heat is on
It's on the street, the heat is on (i can feel the fire)
The heat is on (flames are burning higher)
The heat is on (baby can't you feel it)
Yeah, it's on the street
The heat is on (i can feel it the fire)
The heat is on (flames are burning higher)
In post 2334, DrewVa wrote:I think this is more likely to come from town though.
Why?
I can't even understand his actual stance and direction besides kind of loosely questioning people who want to lynch you. It sounded like a defence until I asked him about it and he sort of jibber-jabbered it into a null comment. Why does that look town?
He was saying that personality styles are harder to change than playstyles, right? What was your issue with that?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:41 pm
by Creature
The problem is it takes more than 4 days to get 14 votes
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:42 pm
by Creature
Yeh, I'm not liking Gamma this game
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:42 pm
by Creature
Anyone townreads Gamma?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:46 pm
by Thor665
In post 2339, Creature wrote:After a few nolynches sure, but scum still will hold the same ammount of votes most likely.
Sure.
But if your theory is too many players allow scum to avoid lynches by not crossvoting then less players should solve your issue.
In post 2341, DrewVa wrote:He was saying that personality styles are harder to change than playstyles, right? What was your issue with that?
He did say that.
I asked him if he saw it as town or scum sided for you.
He claimed neither.
So my issue is - why am I wasting time reading him investigating a question that he doesn't think will tell him your alignment.
But back to my original question to you - why do you TOWN read it?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:48 pm
by Creature
What's even the point of this day?
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:49 pm
by Creature
Like, I'm used to getting a 5 or 6 (or even 4) votes wagon on someone and they already feel pretty pressured