[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery


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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:02 am

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Succinct (L-4)
: rb
Something_Smart (L-4)
: Succinct
Auro (L-4)
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Auro, Nako, Egix96, Something_Smart,
Ruby Red
I have independent reasons to scumread you two; and there's no reason to believe Succint isn't scum with you.
  • His vanity vote on you hours from the D3 deadline
  • His continuous push on us as scumbuddies, to push me as a ML in case you're lynched
  • His recent flail and vote for you when it's clear no one's lynching Lamees
  • Scum bussing is expected in this gamestate, as I explained earlier
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:03 am

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In post 2311, Succinct wrote:Leaving Auro and rb reads unexplained.

My Auro read's that Auro fits as a Something_Smart scumbuddy, but not as a Lamees scumbuddy. There's not much more.
Ah, so like Lamees, you don't have any case of substance. Good to know.
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:17 am

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In post 2311, Succinct wrote:rb's returning to my original thoughts on the slot, deeming his content not town. Furthermore, there's a nagging question at mind: rb's been widely townread by players throughout the game; why isn't he dead. If rb is town, you can plausibly say it's because his main push is also on town (making Ruby Red town regardless of whether rb's town/scum), but the suspicion lingers of an alternative answer being he can't die due to being scum.

rb also carries some burden of proficiency; he's a competent player, yet has contributed significantly to at least one almost assured mislynch and helped lynch other town as well.
This looks
very forced
, and I'll explain why.

RB not being NK'd due to "widely being townread" is a point you should've brought up start D4 if it was nagging you so much, not after your failed push on Lamees. Works well with my theory solve - you were fully cognizant that this point could be brought up, and didn't bring it up while you thought you could bring another mislynch.

The BoP is also a point you could've scumread him for much earlier - this attack is gross anyway, since it's objectively untrue: On D3 RB was *against* Mala's lynch. Again, forced.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:21 am

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In post 2325, Auro wrote:I have independent reasons to scumread you two; and there's no reason to believe Succint isn't scum with you.
Gee, how about the fact that he's been pushing on me literally since he replaced in. :igmeou:
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:24 am

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...which is totally plausible? You were never the main push till Succint was pressured and it was clear Lamees wasn't a lynch option.
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:47 am

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Auro your substance isn't really substance though. You basically look who the player is scum reading/willing to lynch. Then if it's you or a player you don't want lynched, you claim they are pushing a mislynch. If it's another player you scum read, you claim they are bussing.
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:49 am

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VOTE: no lynch
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:50 am

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Scum will narrow it down for us. If they choose not to NK, we no lynch again. I'll accept the draw.
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:00 am

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In post 2318, Lamees wrote:Everyone has auro in their scumpool somewhere. This isn't coincidence. Let's just go for it.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it right now, Auro is town.
If I am wrong, you can meme on me in postgame.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:00 am

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In post 2331, Lamees wrote:VOTE: no lynch
I thought we'd already decided this was a bad idea?
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:04 am

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In post 2330, Lamees wrote:Auro your substance isn't really substance though. You basically look who the player is scum reading/willing to lynch. Then if it's you or a player you don't want lynched, you claim they are pushing a mislynch. If it's another player you scum read, you claim they are bussing.
Nope, I'm being very specific about where it's bussing and where it's a lynch pushed on town. I'm backing it up by asserting how these interactions (Say, Succint/Something_Smart) look like bussing; if you disagree feel free to argue there.

Which case of mine lacks substance?
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:14 am

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10684877#p10684877]post 2335[/url], Egix96 wrote:Excuse me, what the f*** is going on with this votecount?
Lemme just apologise if that sounded a bit rude, it wasn't directed at the mod :oops:

But in all seriousness I am concerned that the votes are being all spread around like that... it's not a good sign!
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:23 am

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In post 2333, Egix96 wrote:
In post 2318, Lamees wrote:Everyone has auro in their scumpool somewhere. This isn't coincidence. Let's just go for it.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it right now, Auro is town.
If I am wrong, you can meme on me in postgame.
How confident are you?
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:38 am

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In post 2337, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2333, Egix96 wrote:
In post 2318, Lamees wrote:Everyone has auro in their scumpool somewhere. This isn't coincidence. Let's just go for it.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it right now, Auro is town.
If I am wrong, you can meme on me in postgame.
How confident are you?
Aaaaaahhhh now you're making me doubt myself :facepalm:
About 9 out of 10?
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:13 am

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In post 2336, Egix96 wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10684877#p10684877]post 2335[/url], Egix96 wrote:Excuse me, what the f*** is going on with this votecount?
Lemme just apologise if that sounded a bit rude, it wasn't directed at the mod :oops:

But in all seriousness I am concerned that the votes are being all spread around like that... it's not a good sign!
this has been the entire game and you say this now..
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:13 am

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lamees a 3scum mylo is not when you go for nolynch
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:15 am

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egix, preferred lynches?
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:17 am

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In post 2320, Something_Smart wrote:I think Succinct is guilty of the same thing he was accusing Auro of. He came in saying he was definitely willing to vote Auro, but now that other people have expressed a willingness to lynch Auro, he's changed his tune.
nako/succint/auro

amirite

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egix wont do auro tho, and im very sure he's town so we need to do nako or succinct
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:02 am

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In post 2339, rb wrote:this has been the entire game and you say this now..
Yes, but now that we're in MyLo, I find it particularly bad.
The MyLo in that game I recently played on MU didn't have the votes spread out as much as this...
In post 2341, rb wrote:egix, preferred lynches?
I'm willing to vote either Succinct or you.

The reason why I'm not convinced that you're town is because of this:
In post 2185, rb wrote:if everyone else claims VT i don't see a need to disbelieve egix's claim, other than the fact
he really didn't play like someone trying to draw an NK at all
Bolded bit implies a scum mindset IMO, I don't think that town!you would be interested in whether people were trying to bait NKs or not.
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:20 am

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We have 2 dead players so not like we can get a lynch.
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:22 am

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s_s / auro / egix are you willing to lynch succinct?
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:16 am

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In post 2343, Egix96 wrote:
In post 2339, rb wrote:this has been the entire game and you say this now..
Yes, but now that we're in MyLo, I find it particularly bad.
The MyLo in that game I recently played on MU didn't have the votes spread out as much as this...
In post 2341, rb wrote:egix, preferred lynches?
I'm willing to vote either Succinct or you.

The reason why I'm not convinced that you're town is because of this:
In post 2185, rb wrote:if everyone else claims VT i don't see a need to disbelieve egix's claim, other than the fact
he really didn't play like someone trying to draw an NK at all
Bolded bit implies a scum mindset IMO, I don't think that town!you would be interested in whether people were trying to bait NKs or not.
twist words much?

i said this after you claimed commuter, because duh, you'd generally expect a commuter would be playing aggressively. so when someone claims commuter, their play is relevant to the believability od the claim

it's a retroactive thought about your claim

also, you're willing too vote me or succinct...are you serious? succinct and i are a likely team in your eyes?
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:18 am

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i think this is actually the worst town ive ever played with in any game
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 2344, Lamees wrote:We have 2 dead players so not like we can get a lynch.
nako is scum, who is the other person you consider dead?
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:32 am

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Nako and red are dead, as in inactive.
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