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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:31 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
The earth is a cube.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:32 pm
by Firebringer
its 100x more likely that Farkran happened to fake claim Neo to his neighbors and by happen stance popopop is one. Then Farkran was rolecop and found out popopop is the real one. And asked for him to claim first to immediately CC his claim.

^^^^ This sounds so much more likely than this nonsense about finding the crumb day fucking 1.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:33 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
Well that's an obvious exageration.

Riddle me this. If pops is scum and rolecopped a town neo, why would he claim it if he knew he would be counterclaimed? Why not claim something else?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:34 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2327, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Well that's an obvious exageration.

Riddle me this. If pops is scum and rolecopped a town neo, why would he claim it if he knew he would be counterclaimed? Why not claim something else?
because first person to claim is more likely believed than second? and he noticed "hey i mentioned ice cream in my posts. Ill use that as my "proof".

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:35 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
Having two neo's in a hood together is likely in what universe?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:35 pm
by Firebringer
do u mean 2 neos in a gme? no one is saying 2 neos in a hood.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:36 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
In post 2328, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2327, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Well that's an obvious exageration.

Riddle me this. If pops is scum and rolecopped a town neo, why would he claim it if he knew he would be counterclaimed? Why not claim something else?
because first person to claim is more likely believed than second? and he noticed "hey i mentioned ice cream in my posts. Ill use that as my "proof".
This is not true. If player A claims power role, and player B claims the same power role, then player B is usually believed becausee usually player A is claiming out of a wagon wheras player B is calling out player A's lie.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:37 pm
by Farkran
In post 2327, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Well that's an obvious exageration.

Riddle me this. If pops is scum and rolecopped a town neo, why would he claim it if he knew he would be counterclaimed? Why not claim something else?
Because he was caught scum today, he knew it and went for a role that would make his claim believable

A claimed tracker has already died, meaning there is hardly another tracker-like role, and also there's hardly a protective given that their kill went through

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:37 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2331, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 2328, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2327, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Well that's an obvious exageration.

Riddle me this. If pops is scum and rolecopped a town neo, why would he claim it if he knew he would be counterclaimed? Why not claim something else?
because first person to claim is more likely believed than second? and he noticed "hey i mentioned ice cream in my posts. Ill use that as my "proof".
This is not true. If player A claims power role, and player B claims the same power role, then player B is usually believed becausee usually player A is claiming out of a wagon wheras player B is calling out player A's lie.
idk from my experience it depends on situation. In this situation since Farkran asked X to claim. I guess Farkran is more believable. But in general, I don't really think so?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:38 pm
by Firebringer
ive had to rescind claims before to stop a town power role from getting lynched because they CCed my claim when I faked a town power role.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:40 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2332, Farkran wrote:Because he was caught scum today, he knew it and went for a role that would make his claim believable
How does that explain him crumbing it on day 1? He hardly knew he would be caught by a Neopolitan that early.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:40 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2325, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The earth is a cube.
I very much love posts like this. Never change Norwe

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:40 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
Let me get this straight. You're suggesting that if a player claims and another player counterclaims, in general you shouldn't believe the counterclaiming player?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:41 pm
by Farkran
That crumb might very well be a random post. I hardclaimed in the hood, no crumbs.

And there's the fact that his behavior in the following days looks literally nothing like a neap with his results

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:43 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
That's a fair point that he didn't crumb his results.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:43 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2337, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Let me get this straight. You're suggesting that if a player claims and another player counterclaims, in general you shouldn't believe the counterclaiming player?
No? I am saying its pretty situational. Like if I came in and CCed a player I would laugh u off the face of the earth if u just immediately bought my claim. I fake claim every day of the week. Why believe me? So i think we need to analyze this from a overall perspective of why someone CCs and i think they do so to improve win chances.

Farkran wasn't really in danger of mislynch. Popopop was kind of since he was in lower run of people townreads. So either we think Farkran thinks CC here really believes his teammate can carry without him and just wants to see if he can improve the odds a bit by getting us to lynch PR or he just isn't lying.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:45 pm
by Firebringer
players need to stop crumbing shit. Crumbs are weaksauce used for noobs.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:46 pm
by Firebringer
man i could go into a rant about how scum can easily produce crumbs. I have done so in the past. Its not hard to make a few spicy crumbs here and there and later claim "ohh yeah i was claiming it here". People buy crumbs too easily. It doesn't prove anything other than 'ohh hey he made a post before about something like this'. Its like people think scum can't plan or do long term strategy.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:48 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
Lynching town!pops gets scum to lylo right? Isn't that enough of a reason for him to push town!pops?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:48 pm
by Firebringer
In post 2343, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Lynching town!pops gets scum to lylo right? Isn't that enough of a reason for him to push town!pops?
Lynching scum!farkran basically gets them to lylo too....

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:49 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
In post 2344, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2343, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Lynching town!pops gets scum to lylo right? Isn't that enough of a reason for him to push town!pops?
Lynching scum!farkran basically gets them to lylo too....
If we lynch scum!farkran we still have a mislynch right?

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:50 pm
by Firebringer
ehhh i mean we still get one mislynch so idk. Depends on what scum!farkran thinks we lynch today without this CC business.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:51 pm
by Firebringer
holy shit. I got the most silly and tinfoil theory for u all.

What if...

they are both scum

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:51 pm
by Farkran
If town is lynched today you have 1 mislynch left

If scum is lynched today you have 2 mislynches left

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:52 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
I mean, it's pretty obvious if we lynch farkran and he's town, we lynch pops next, and if we lynch pops and he's town, we lynch farkran next right?