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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:56 pm
by unwnd
In post 2322, Cabd wrote: In post 2318, unwnd wrote: In post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' Mafia
I however
Yeah but see like syr and I are best buds and I would argue when it comes to his mafia mind I know it better than anyone here. Even Ffery.
I think it's hard to read someone who isn't playing up to his own perceived potential, and again that's the only vibe I got
He was dispirited due to the response of the room
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:57 pm
by Cabd
I mean like I'm not gonna ever convince you that you're scum. I'm good but not that good.
Anyways I'll case you later, spiffeh junior.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:57 pm
by Prism
This...also just still doesn't answer why you think it's 1-1. It was just a restatement of why you individually scumread me, which I exactly the opposite of what I asked for.
Why does me flipping town mean petapan is scum to you? You clearly do not place any value in my reasoning here.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:58 pm
by unwnd
In post 2327, Prism wrote:This...also just still doesn't answer why you think it's 1-1. It was just a restatement of why you individually scumread me, which I exactly the opposite of what I asked for.
Why does me flipping town mean petapan is scum to you? You clearly do not place any value in my reasoning here.
If this is what you got out of my assessment of you two it's another case of selective reading
This is a thing scum does, and while I'm not pointing that at you as a main argument, I will say that if everyone continues to selectively read then it's just going to benefit them in the long-term
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by Cabd
I mean respect for trying to dig out and justify a vote on the counter wagons. Don't get me wrong.
I respect the hell out of your last game unwnd. It's why I cant let you live even more so than when that slot was just scum.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 2099, fferyllt wrote:
Hope you're still around. Shit happened.
I like the way they've pushed back on my various reasons for townreading them (which you could have found if you were reading my posts, instead of just coming back to the same thing with me every time you re-engage) as flawed is also probably more of a town thing than a scum thing. I do this as both alignments, but tend to keep at it more as town. In that vein they'll probably hate just about everything I cite here!
The trajectory of their scumread of Skitter based on posts about the you/Prism swirl feels unforced to me, like it's real things they're thinking.
The way they tried to
rethink their focus on you before doubling down looks town, though it's probably a weak indicator.
Their coolness under pressure (getting to E-2? Is that a thing that actually happened?) felt town.
Their dance with petapan and the level of skepticism has a decisiveness and persistence that looks town. I'm watching both sides of that dance because if one of them is scum, I think there will eventually be a falter of some sort.
Some of the posting what I'm thinking or maybe should be thinking examples, (this is not as tight a linkage as I'd usually want but that's my fault for being in a fog for parts of the game)
- The Vax discussion with Skitter30 (which was part of my not liking Skitter at that point), and a lot of the further interactions up to the point where Skitter and I had a go-around. Their interactions still resonate probably more than anything else outside my own interactions with Skitter.
- The
post about Syr/Cabd/Me gave me a small stake in the ground in terms of figuring out how I felt about our interactions at that point
This just seems like it boils down to "tone/gut" to me and that it's more designed to make me satisfied that you believe it rather than convince me I'm wrong
Also I feel that you've slapped my hand away again after "inviting" me (your words) by just suggesting i should read your posts and I'd have all the answers I want
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:00 pm
by unwnd
In post 2326, Cabd wrote:I mean like I'm not gonna ever convince you that you're scum. I'm good but not that good.
Anyways I'll case you later, spiffeh junior.
Honestly Cabd, I have a null read on you and I don't know what it all means that you're still hardheaded about this. We're not in the same position where you were tunnelling Cakez and he just flopped, this is D1 and I type 110 WPM, so looking forward to whatever you have to throw at me
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:02 pm
by Prism
It's also a thing town does, you said you thought one of us has to be scum and I wanted to know why that was the case. If you want to say something like it led you to just dig deeper into me and you don't think Peta is scum if I flip town than that's okay, but you literally could have just said that lmao
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:04 pm
by fferyllt
In post 2322, Cabd wrote: In post 2318, unwnd wrote: In post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' Mafia
I however
Yeah but see like syr and I are best buds and I would argue when it comes to his mafia mind I know it better than anyone here. Even Ffery.
Trying to decide if I disagree with this.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:04 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2244, unwnd wrote:My main suspicion is with Prism, and I feel that his posts thus far have been entertaining but almost to a fault. He feels very excessive in the way he gets his point across and if it doesn't then he resorts to this sorta uncanny approach where he is extra animated about the negative reception
It's scummy as fuck
VOTE: Prism
WHERE IS THE CLAIM
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:04 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 2317, notscience wrote:I called it a WK but my issue with it was syry is accusing Cabd of something that syry also does.
which is what, just so i know what you're saying explicitly?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:05 pm
by unwnd
Cmon man I haven't even been here to fight with you and your angle still remains the same, where you flip the argument and then turn it against someone. leaving pitfalls in your words for people to fall into. That is why selective reading again, will benefit scum in the long-run
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:06 pm
by DrippingGoofball
DID I MISS UNWND's CLAIM???
I'm looking everywhere
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:06 pm
by Prism
I literally asked why you believed something you said. It's going to be okay, dude.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:06 pm
by unwnd
To re-iterate
I never scumread peta, I do not scumread peta now
Why you said this is absolutely beyond me
Why you continue to do what you're doing despite someone like Peta telling you no, is beyond me
why you say things like 'well his behavior is NAI but let's lim him anyways', is beyond me
Why you're not the leading wagon and I am is uh well, beyond me
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:07 pm
by Vaxkiller
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 2336, unwnd wrote:Cmon man I haven't even been here to fight with you and your angle still remains the same, where you flip the argument and then turn it against someone. leaving pitfalls in your words for people to fall into. That is why selective reading again, will benefit scum in the long-run
In post 2338, Prism wrote:I literally asked why you believed something you said. It's going to be okay, dude.
Giving me some major fucking deja vu right here
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:09 pm
by Prism
In post 2265, unwnd wrote:That type of behavior just doesn't sit right with me, and the conclusion I reached is that at least one of you has to be scum.
I was asking about this, which implies Prism town -> Peta scum.
Never said you scumread Peta, entire point of previous posts is that if you don't believe that implication and just scumread me it's fine, but
if you did
, I wanted to know why
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:10 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:10 pm
by unwnd
I think when it came to you I explicitly said independently did I not?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:11 pm
by fferyllt
In post 2330, borkjerfkin wrote: In post 2099, fferyllt wrote:
Hope you're still around. Shit happened.
I like the way they've pushed back on my various reasons for townreading them (which you could have found if you were reading my posts, instead of just coming back to the same thing with me every time you re-engage) as flawed is also probably more of a town thing than a scum thing. I do this as both alignments, but tend to keep at it more as town. In that vein they'll probably hate just about everything I cite here!
The trajectory of their scumread of Skitter based on posts about the you/Prism swirl feels unforced to me, like it's real things they're thinking.
The way they tried to
rethink their focus on you before doubling down looks town, though it's probably a weak indicator.
Their coolness under pressure (getting to E-2? Is that a thing that actually happened?) felt town.
Their dance with petapan and the level of skepticism has a decisiveness and persistence that looks town. I'm watching both sides of that dance because if one of them is scum, I think there will eventually be a falter of some sort.
Some of the posting what I'm thinking or maybe should be thinking examples, (this is not as tight a linkage as I'd usually want but that's my fault for being in a fog for parts of the game)
- The Vax discussion with Skitter30 (which was part of my not liking Skitter at that point), and a lot of the further interactions up to the point where Skitter and I had a go-around. Their interactions still resonate probably more than anything else outside my own interactions with Skitter.
- The
post about Syr/Cabd/Me gave me a small stake in the ground in terms of figuring out how I felt about our interactions at that point
This just seems like it boils down to "tone/gut" to me and that it's more designed to make me satisfied that you believe it rather than convince me I'm wrong
Also I feel that you've slapped my hand away again after "inviting" me (your words) by just suggesting i should read your posts and I'd have all the answers I want
I'm not slapping your hand away. I'm trying to take a can opener to my head and let you have a look inside.
I AM annoyed that you haven't read my iso regarding Prism. Given the extent of your tunnel or Prism I don't think I can directly convince you you're wrong. If you acknowledge that I at least have reasons to think what I think about Prism, that should mean something?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:12 pm
by unwnd
Ffery I was null-reading you what your take on this whole mess going on?
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:14 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 2345, fferyllt wrote:If you acknowledge that I at least have reasons to think what I think about Prism, that should mean something?
It does mean something or I wouldn't have asked. I still stand by what I just said; I don't think "seems like they believe what they say" or their tone under pressure is a really high bar to hit as scum. I don't consider myself a good scum player and feel like I hit all those tonal marks in IS pretty handily.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:14 pm
by Cabd
In post 2333, fferyllt wrote: In post 2322, Cabd wrote: In post 2318, unwnd wrote: In post 2316, Cabd wrote:I'm not going to lie man I'm basing this literally 0% on anything you posted
Some people just have bad games, feel left out, or just aren't feelin' Mafia
I however
Yeah but see like syr and I are best buds and I would argue when it comes to his mafia mind I know it better than anyone here. Even Ffery.
Trying to decide if I disagree with this.
You are the only person who could convincingly claim otherwise.
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:14 pm
by Cabd
I'm here, got my heels on playing escort.