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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:32 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2316, DkKoba wrote:rolestopped = any incoming actions get roleblocked
A roleblocker can do that?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:33 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2323, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??
roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:33 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2323, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??
roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:33 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2322, Asteria wrote:
In post 2317, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2300, Asteria wrote:If we don't think scum have a traitor or 2 docs then Koba is lying. Because that would make 5 guns
How?
Me+Andante+Koba = 3 for town
2 mafia roles that are not traitor/doc = 2 for scum
Ok, got it.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:34 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2321, Asteria wrote:
In post 2315, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2297, DkKoba wrote:2 maf doc + 1 maf rolestopper/roleblocker
Then why the town has only one killer role??
This is valid. We would need 2 killing roles for 2 docs to make sense. And I don't think we have anymore based on flips from last night
And the vig is also not powerful, a weak town vig against 2 mafia docs seems partial.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:36 pm
by InsidiousLemons
asteria remind me of your claim again? this game is fckn wild

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:36 pm
by Asteria
Yeah, so I'm really doubting there's 2 docs. Maybe lemons is right about the doc/roleblocker combination.

@lemons Do you think mafia have either 2 docs or 1 doc and a traitor?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:37 pm
by Asteria
In post 2330, InsidiousLemons wrote:asteria remind me of your claim again? this game is fckn wild
non-consecutive night neapolitan

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:38 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2326, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 2323, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??
roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles
Oh, ok.... then we can have a rolestopper by
DkKoba
's logic, but not a roleblocker, right?
If we have only 1 mafia doc here, then is it possible to have both roleblocker and rolestopper?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:38 pm
by osuka
In post 2157, Andante wrote:actually, I want VFP out now. I'm like 100% certain they are scum, based on their flip off dragons after I kept yelling dragons was flipping town, like, it was almost like VFP also knew dragons town, but never gave strong reasons


VOTE: VFP
im inclined to agree, but why did you turn to this slot before they had a chance to say anything?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:39 pm
by osuka
In post 2159, InsidiousLemons wrote:if they shot a protected scum they would've died because of the weak modifier
explain? im stupid and i dont understand

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:40 pm
by InsidiousLemons
seems very unlikely to have all 3. if weak vig is indeed killed by a roleblocker, then that would make VFP scum who got rolestopped by their buddy, assuming koba's claim is real. unless my brain is short circuiting which it may well be

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by osuka
In post 2192, Andante wrote:
In post 2186, DkKoba wrote:I shot at vfb

so you're claiming there's a roleblocker. lovely.
??????????

there is literally a mod confirmed mafia doctor in this setup

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by Asteria
In post 2333, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2326, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 2323, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??
roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles
Oh, ok.... then we can have a rolestopper by
DkKoba
's logic, but not a roleblocker, right?
If we have only 1 mafia doc here, then is it possible to have both roleblocker and rolestopper?
We can have a roleblocker if they targeted Koba, and a rolestopper if they targeted VFP

We can't have both a blocker and stopper and the 3 town claims because that's 5 guns

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2333, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2326, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 2323, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??
roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles
Oh, ok.... then we can have a rolestopper by
DkKoba
's logic, but not a roleblocker, right?
If we have only 1 mafia doc here, then is it possible to have both roleblocker and rolestopper?
there can be a roleblocker too - who targeted me.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2037, DkKoba wrote:because if i target scum who is saved i just die instead
is this not what the weak modifier does

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:41 pm
by InsidiousLemons
is it i who is being stupid

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:42 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2275, Datisi wrote:
vote count 2.04

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-04-30 18:15:00).


execution
DKKoba [4]:
InsidiousLemons, Asteria, T3, Anya
Guys, can you unvote for now?
DkKoba
is at E-2.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:42 pm
by DkKoba
why are you fucking assuming theres only 1 scum doc where does it say that

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:42 pm
by InsidiousLemons
i parsed this as
weak vig shoots unprotected maf --> maf dies, vig lives
weak vig shoots protected maf --> maf lives, vig dies

reading the wiki page on "weak" tells me i am indeed being stupid

UNVOTE:

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:43 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2340, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 2037, DkKoba wrote:because if i target scum who is saved i just die instead
is this not what the weak modifier does
yes if i successfuly target scum i die that is what it does. it is in that situation where it is I who only dies.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:43 pm
by DkKoba
god

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:44 pm
by InsidiousLemons
okay, i get it now. this is my own fault for being unfamiliar with the weak modifier and not double checking

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:44 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2343, DkKoba wrote:why are you fucking assuming theres only 1 scum doc where does it say that
why would there be multiple scum docs though?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:44 pm
by osuka
In post 2200, T3 wrote:I've found this game hard to get in to. I'll try to be more active in future. This has been very fast paced than the games I'm used to.
you literally have 24 posts so yeah better get the fuck on that