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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:22 pm
by ulyana
In post 2324, unwnd wrote:If Saber flips scum at any point in this game she's not scum with Dunnstral based on something I just read

You can consider that vice-versa
hm,

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:23 pm
by Infinity 324
i agree with unwnd's read on dunn

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:24 pm
by unwnd
Not gonna lie I felt very cold about the people who were here talking with me. I didn't feel any 'these people seem interested in a towny way', and that's not to say they can't be town. The only person who is obviously town was Gamma and then without interaction I just sorta let myself believe Dunn was town as well.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:25 pm
by unwnd
In post 2326, Infinity 324 wrote:i agree with unwnd's read on dunn
Er, why?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:25 pm
by unwnd
I don't know your own experience with Dunn but I do know we were in RPG together where I defended you (correctly) against a Ydra/Dunn team where I finally had the gumption to vote Dunn out. Are you seeing lack of parallel from that?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:26 pm
by ulyana
In post 2325, ulyana wrote:
In post 2324, unwnd wrote:If Saber flips scum at any point in this game she's not scum with Dunnstral based on something I just read

You can consider that vice-versa
hm,
any chance you could share the thing you are basing this on

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:27 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2285, Dwlee99 wrote:If scum knew the chair was going to be used to make executions, shouldn't we be looking for people who tried to prevent Gamma from getting the chair, not the ones trying to give him the chair, assuming he is town?
I think being for or against me being in the chair is irrelevant, what’s more important is how they approached me. If I was reading solely based on that I feel like Ulyana would definitely look the worst. When I started expressing suspicion towards her her immediate paranoia was that I was angling to take a shot on her. Obviously that wasn’t the case, this wasn’t a game where I could just do that.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:28 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 2329, unwnd wrote:I don't know your own experience with Dunn but I do know we were in RPG together where I defended you (correctly) against a Ydra/Dunn team where I finally had the gumption to vote Dunn out. Are you seeing lack of parallel from that?
I mean yeah, I feel like the pattern you pointed out is generally true for dunn

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:28 pm
by ulyana
In post 2327, unwnd wrote:Not gonna lie I felt very cold about the people who were here talking with me.
? you said you were evaluating gamma's wagon and i presented an opportunity for you to do so as i was on that wagon right and this is the first you seem to have any opinion about my alignment anywhere and it is 'felt cold interacting but may be town'?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:28 pm
by unwnd
One particular post from Saber with her vote placed onto me (Galron) and a light finger pointed towards Dunn. Just seems extraordinarily misplaced and didn't seem like a distance attempt

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:29 pm
by unwnd
In post 2333, ulyana wrote:
In post 2327, unwnd wrote:Not gonna lie I felt very cold about the people who were here talking with me.
? you said you were evaluating gamma's wagon and i presented an opportunity for you to do so as i was on that wagon right and this is the first you seem to have any opinion about my alignment anywhere and it is 'felt cold interacting but may be town'?
I'm not sure what your alignment is. I'm not sure what Skitter's alignment is. I don't know what Peta is going to do when he sees that I pretty much came in here and disagreed with two of his scumreads. Who's left? Dwlee? They got flustered about not being answered and dipped.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:30 pm
by ulyana
In post 2331, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2285, Dwlee99 wrote:If scum knew the chair was going to be used to make executions, shouldn't we be looking for people who tried to prevent Gamma from getting the chair, not the ones trying to give him the chair, assuming he is town?
I think being for or against me being in the chair is irrelevant, what’s more important is how they approached me. If I was reading solely based on that I feel like Ulyana would definitely look the worst. When I started expressing suspicion towards her her immediate paranoia was that I was angling to take a shot on her. Obviously that wasn’t the case, this wasn’t a game where I could just do that.
do you really think scum!you's first plan of action after i expressed that it felt like you may have been angling to shoot me would be to publicly shoot me (with the after the sabotage shot i assume)? like i don't understand

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2292, ulyana wrote:
In post 2288, unwnd wrote:You agreed with Skitter that I should be focusing on Galron's wagon instead?
it seems more likely that town!you would focus on sorting the players voting your slot to find mafias then focusing on the opposing wagon which contained town that you are aware of like it's a very odd approach
Eh, I think this rote expectation of what a player should do is kinda banal
I’ll dive into this later as part of something else but for now just know I don’t think reading a played for what the should be doing is a great look

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:31 pm
by unwnd
In post 2332, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2329, unwnd wrote:I don't know your own experience with Dunn but I do know we were in RPG together where I defended you (correctly) against a Ydra/Dunn team where I finally had the gumption to vote Dunn out. Are you seeing lack of parallel from that?
I mean yeah, I feel like the pattern you pointed out is generally true for dunn
What do you think about Ydra suspecting you? Like

Give me some ramblings. I wanna know where you are right now.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:32 pm
by ulyana
In post 2337, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2292, ulyana wrote:
In post 2288, unwnd wrote:You agreed with Skitter that I should be focusing on Galron's wagon instead?
it seems more likely that town!you would focus on sorting the players voting your slot to find mafias then focusing on the opposing wagon which contained town that you are aware of like it's a very odd approach
Eh, I think this rote expectation of what a player should do is kinda banal
I’ll dive into this later as part of something else but for now just know I don’t think reading a played for what the should be doing is a great look
so you think it is common for a player to replace into a slot go find wagons from the past to start their search for scums and start with the wagon they were on that they know to have contained two other towns when they were the opposing wagon? that doesn't seem at all strange to you?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:35 pm
by Taly
My WIM is feeling low at the moment.

Unwnd, what posts against Gamma did you disagree with most?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:36 pm
by SirCakez
Sorry y'all i know i haven't been here will be tomorrow!!

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:37 pm
by unwnd
In post 2340, Taly wrote:My WIM is feeling low at the moment.

Unwnd, what posts against Gamma did you disagree with most?
You want me to do Homework?

Would prefer not to but if it would help your wim I would lol

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2336, ulyana wrote:
In post 2331, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2285, Dwlee99 wrote:If scum knew the chair was going to be used to make executions, shouldn't we be looking for people who tried to prevent Gamma from getting the chair, not the ones trying to give him the chair, assuming he is town?
I think being for or against me being in the chair is irrelevant, what’s more important is how they approached me. If I was reading solely based on that I feel like Ulyana would definitely look the worst. When I started expressing suspicion towards her her immediate paranoia was that I was angling to take a shot on her. Obviously that wasn’t the case, this wasn’t a game where I could just do that.
do you really think scum!you's first plan of action after i expressed that it felt like you may have been angling to shoot me would be to publicly shoot me (with the after the sabotage shot i assume)? like i don't understand
I feel like if I was scum and you were actually a thorn in my side at that point I could have just made you the one killed in the sabotage? I wouldn’t have even had to rationalize that
But like, neither of us could have really known that was an option during D1?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:39 pm
by ulyana
In post 2343, Gamma Emerald wrote:But like, neither of us could have really known that was an option during D1?
but you think mafia had access to this information as you said previously when we discussed it, thus

you know i am town?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:40 pm
by petapan
In post 2335, unwnd wrote:
In post 2333, ulyana wrote:
In post 2327, unwnd wrote:Not gonna lie I felt very cold about the people who were here talking with me.
? you said you were evaluating gamma's wagon and i presented an opportunity for you to do so as i was on that wagon right and this is the first you seem to have any opinion about my alignment anywhere and it is 'felt cold interacting but may be town'?
I'm not sure what your alignment is. I'm not sure what Skitter's alignment is. I don't know what Peta is going to do when he sees that I pretty much came in here and disagreed with two of his scumreads. Who's left? Dwlee? They got flustered about not being answered and dipped.
my read on dunn was less a scumread and more an "okay, can die" read since he'd popped in solely to defend himself against a thing

his posts since you showed up have been better

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:41 pm
by unwnd
Actually surprised of that

You liked his blunt defenses?
Maybe because of the reasons I gave

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:42 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2339, ulyana wrote:
In post 2337, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2292, ulyana wrote:
In post 2288, unwnd wrote:You agreed with Skitter that I should be focusing on Galron's wagon instead?
it seems more likely that town!you would focus on sorting the players voting your slot to find mafias then focusing on the opposing wagon which contained town that you are aware of like it's a very odd approach
Eh, I think this rote expectation of what a player should do is kinda banal
I’ll dive into this later as part of something else but for now just know I don’t think reading a played for what the should be doing is a great look
so you think it is common for a player to replace into a slot go find wagons from the past to start their search for scums and start with the wagon they were on that they know to have contained two other towns when they were the opposing wagon? that doesn't seem at all strange to you?
Sure it’s strange but I try to not equate strange with scummy
What do you think unwnd!scum hopes to accomplish by immediately hunting scum on the counterwagon to him? It’s pretty plain from what he’s post unwnd thought I was town while he was spectating
@unwnd
what was your impression of Galron from when you were spectating?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:42 pm
by unwnd
Zero impression. I wasn't paying attention to him at all and was basically at ' following players I know/are chummy with'

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:43 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 2338, unwnd wrote:What do you think about Ydra suspecting you? Like

Give me some ramblings. I wanna know where you are right now.
i feel like usual on d2s, which is that i have too many townreads, but this time there are more medium townreads on hard to read players.

like toog, dunn, your slot, saber, etc.

i was actually thinking that ydrasse suspecting me for pushing her is town-indicative

toog doesn't care about anything which is towny but he could be playing into it intentionally i guess?

saber feels towny on tone and she mindmelded with me when i though gamma was scum but that's about it

your slot i have very few solid reasons to townread but especially in his conversation with ulyana before he replaced out, he felt like he was trying to sort without caring about how he was perceived

these are the slots i'm trying (and mostly failing) to sort through atm