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In post 2323, Wisdom wrote:Do explain why me and DV cant both be town

You both have bad associatives with Galron, but DV's are more nuanced imo, which reads as more thought out, which I view as scummier.

Also DV has the weird overreaction to catching a vote or two (I bookmarked it earlier but lost track, it was like in the 1700s) where I kinda don't see town reacting in that way.

Could you both be town? Yes, but I don't think it's super likely.

I dont take issue with who you think is more likely

I take issue with the dichotomy

Lots of people have "bad associatives" with galron, don't see why youre picking us two

The quotes because I cant imagine you believe with a straight face that i have associatives with galron

In post 2326, Wisdom wrote:I dont take issue with who you think is more likely

I take issue with the dichotomy

I feel strongly there's one and only one scum between the two of you.

Virtually nonexistent chance you're scum together.

Moderate chance you're both town.

Good chance one of you is scum.

In post 2328, Wisdom wrote:The quotes because I cant imagine you believe with a straight face that i have associatives with galron

I don't really, as I said at the start of the day, but it would be remiss if I didn't point out you were one of his strongest defenders yesterday. Even though I do think you were defending in good faith.

Yeah there's no basis for that

You just said two names and went "1 scum in these two"

In post 2300, DeasVail wrote:

In post 2228, Wisdom wrote:

In post 2222, DeasVail wrote:but as someone who is known (at least in my experience with him) to be very headstrong about reads even when they're wrong, to go ridiculously all in on Galron being town feels like a good strategy for Wisdom-scum. I don't think he's town because I don't think town in their right mind could have been so confident in Galron being town.

Youre contradicting yourself
"Wisdom is known to be headstrong even if he's wrong"
"I can't see how Wisdom can be so confident"

I wanted to provocative and see how Wisdom would respond, but I completely disagree with this post from Wisdom and I think it's a misrepresentation. The core argument I'm making is that the confidence in Galron-town was such a weird take that I don't think even headstrong-Wisdom would conceivably have that confidence in Galron-town, and to me it makes more sense as being Wisdom-scum emulating his town meta.

Okay.

didn't like that

VOTE: pav

I didn't like it either tbh. Will return to this when I'm less irritated.

@Wisdom,

Mod said I was vanillized N1, but I opened the casket during the day.
Also I got the same casket today and picked right and the effect is pretty pro town, though this time I picked the casket during the night phase. Or at least pretty wifomy.

-Bell

power's been out all day, catching up now

are we following gl through dv currently?

I don't think so.

-Bell

In post 2334, Pavowski wrote:I didn't like it either tbh. Will return to this when I'm less irritated.

Wait, why didn't you like your own post?

-Bell

In post 2338, Icebox wrote:

In post 2334, Pavowski wrote:I didn't like it either tbh. Will return to this when I'm less irritated.

Wait, why didn't you like your own post?

-Bell

Got frustrated, got snippy. Not a fan of my tone.

In post 2337, Icebox wrote:I don't think so.

-Bell

The summary of GL’s post is that he provided me a list of strong townreads who he has also discussed with Titus. He thinks Wisdom is town for having a similar view of the game to him. Has slight concern about OTH but thinks probably town. Thinks Pav is scum. Probably thinks I’m town but I’m sure that he’s not as certain of that as he is of his strong townreads.

In post 2324, Pavowski wrote:

In post 2321, Wisdom wrote:That sounded like lining up a push on me after dv

Like I seriously am getting the impression you're taking everything I post in the worst possible light. I literally said I do not think you're the scummier of the two, and DV is far from a sure thing at this point.

I think this is the most concerning post. The original one was fine I think, but this has an appeasement vibe to it.

“I don’t think scummy! It’s fine!”

Okay, you guys are ready to run me up. Cool cool cool.

Might as well claim.

I'm Oberon's Flower. I make people fall in love. 'Twas I who loverized Galron and Icebox. I had a good scumread on Galron and I was nullish at best on Icebox after d1 (townier since then!). Several of you expressed that loverizing seemed like a scum ability; maybe it usually is (this is my first game with the mechanic), but this time it isn't. I had an ability and didn't want to die with it in my pocket. I do not know why they subsequently fell out of love, but something must have happened to nullify it because my ability was still "spent".

I can loverize again if the opportunity arises for me to repurchase the ability, but it hasn't come up yet, so I'm a vanilla townie right now. As such I do make sense as an elimination target, as until something unforeseen happens, I can't add any intel or affect the game in any meaningful way. I can think of one pair I'm curious to loverize if given the chance, but who knows if that'll happen or if you will let me live that long.

Anyway, watch the vote counts. There is opportunism afoot.

And I wrote you guys a damn sonnet, too.

Probably done posting for tonight!

Well I'll hang around for a few if anybody wants to poke at me some more.

Why didn’t you disclose that D2 when people were asking about it?

-GE

Also I’m working with marci on a sonnet of our own, I’ve got like the first 4 lines written out

-GE

Partly I was busy IRL and the conversation had shifted by the time I was able to plug in again.

Also I didn't want to bring the heat off Galron when his lim felt pretty righteous.

In post 2343, Pavowski wrote:Okay, you guys are ready to run me up. Cool cool cool.

Might as well claim.

I'm Oberon's Flower. I make people fall in love. 'Twas I who loverized Galron and Icebox. I had a good scumread on Galron and I was nullish at best on Icebox after d1 (townier since then!). Several of you expressed that loverizing seemed like a scum ability; maybe it usually is (this is my first game with the mechanic), but this time it isn't. I had an ability and didn't want to die with it in my pocket. I do not know why they subsequently fell out of love, but something must have happened to nullify it because my ability was still "spent".

I can loverize again if the opportunity arises for me to repurchase the ability, but it hasn't come up yet, so I'm a vanilla townie right now. As such I do make sense as an elimination target, as until something unforeseen happens, I can't add any intel or affect the game in any meaningful way. I can think of one pair I'm curious to loverize if given the chance, but who knows if that'll happen or if you will let me live that long.

Anyway, watch the vote counts. There is opportunism afoot.

And I wrote you guys a damn sonnet, too.

Probably done posting for tonight!

Wow.

-Bell

I know, right?