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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:13 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
Please remember this if i die tho

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:14 am
by Frogsterking
In post 2325, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
Please remember this if i die tho
:?:

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:15 am
by Andante
In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
Like, in the event frogs flips town... EVERYTHING about his play in the hood was anti town, like Greeting had the exact same doubts I did... "why would scum just not solve?" but by frogster doing what he did.. catboi and I were basing all of our reads around frogster!scum world cause, it just doesn't make sense for town to be like frogster was... like, why not go "oh yeah I'm town, now I'll help solve" no.. frogster did 0 solving and was constantly like "lol no rush! still have 2 days to solve the bomb" "lol no rush still have hours!!"

it's just like, we HAVE to lim frogster... there is no way anyone lives after that performance

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:15 am
by StrangeMatter
VOTE: Frogsterking

I like this.

Andante you can push me all you want day 3 but I'm just going to be here saying your read on me is unbelievably incorrect, but I want Frogsterking eliminated.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:16 am
by Andante
And on another note, Strange is in scum meta!! I was looking at meta after SRing posts this game, and the performance here mirrors a past scum game, so Strange is for sure mafia

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:16 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
dwlee are you really trying to get townread for a wagon that went nowhere

pedit @Andante: yeah I'm not going to fight his lim because I think people are never going to be able to move on from his play, but I still think he flips town :<

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:16 am
by Andante
please let everyone check in before ending day

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:16 am
by Frogsterking
In post 2310, Andante wrote:
In post 2301, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2291, Andante wrote:see, we were thinking andres got thrown to group 1 like that to be SRed, andres in the hood was pretty good, catboi and I were thinking andres town for sure... like, frogster was just annoying the whole time... Greeting had the time zone difference so wasn't there too much, but was there enough and actively tried to solve with catboi
What did Andres say? I want to know what original thoughts he had, and why you tr'd him

Also I don't understand. If scum wanted Andres to be SR'ed, why wouldn't they make Andres a defuser?
umm well first off his very first post in the PT was like, really towny lol (idk what's even allowed to be quoted or what.. cause frogster quoted word for word something I said...)
but hood from andres basically started like "yeah catboi is town, lets solve the bomb" and LOTS of words lol uhhhh was against just massclaiming cause he didn't trust all, which I totally understood. Frogs, while calling catboi maf claimed macho cop.. sooo that's whatever. Has he given his macho cop result here? nope. uhhh andres thought I was claiming scum when I claimed, umm overall andres seemed genuine and towny!!

andres was NOT townie andres was extremely suspicious and everyone instantly townread him. NO ONE thought it was a good idea to NOT defuse catboi, that there was any chance catboit was not town, and BARELY brought up the fact that andres was even in the hood was extremely strange.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:17 am
by Greeting
In post 2271, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2267, Greeting wrote:
In post 2260, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2252, Greeting wrote:I strongly encourage you to ignore whatever
Frog
is saying and follow me,
Andante
,
Andresvmb
and
catboi
onto this.
did catboi call frog scum too?
Yes, he was literally grilling me for disbelieving at first.

Andante
can confirm this.
thx. Why was he townreading andres?
Paraphrasing.

Beginning of thread: townlean because of interactions with player
Menalque
.
Later: expressed his belief that
Andresvmb
was inserted into our group as a result of mafia machinations, plus it was his belief that
Andresvmb
gets angry because cares much to not get wrongly eliminated by town, which in his eyes makes him town.
Late thread:
Andresvmb
is his second biggest townlean,
Andante
being on top.

This is what I found while looking through the thread.

When the mixup happened it became extremely obvious to the four of us (excluding
Frogsterking
who probably co-arranged this) that
Andresvmb
probably did not have anything to do with the mixup and that it was done by someone else on purpose to confuse us.
Andresvmb
was fully cooperative in the thread and willing to work and discuss with us, plus we had little doubt that the things he said came from a town mindset.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:17 am
by Frogsterking
In post 2330, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:dwlee are you really trying to get townread for a wagon that went nowhere

pedit @Andante: yeah I'm not going to fight his lim because I think people are never going to be able to move on from his play, but I still think he flips town :<
That's fine, I feel like I said enough

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:18 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2330, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:dwlee are you really trying to get townread for a wagon that went nowhere

pedit @Andante: yeah I'm not going to fight his lim because I think people are never going to be able to move on from his play, but I still think he flips town :<
Yes, and you helped frogs push me in a slimy way so you're also scum

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:19 am
by Frogsterking
~ once in the game, at twilight, if you have not been voted in as a bomb expert, you may make yourself be the bomb defuser for the night.
catboi NEVER claimed this in the thread.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:20 am
by Andante
In post 2336, Frogsterking wrote:
~ once in the game, at twilight, if you have not been voted in as a bomb expert, you may make yourself be the bomb defuser for the night.
catboi NEVER claimed this in the thread.
he had no need? Frogster, what's your macho cop result?

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:20 am
by Greeting
In post 2327, Andante wrote:
In post 2322, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I think if you're town, frogs, it's more likely that your hood was all town

I'm not going to elaborate on this further at this time
Like, in the event frogs flips town... EVERYTHING about his play in the hood was anti town, like Greeting had the exact same doubts I did... "why would scum just not solve?" but by frogster doing what he did.. catboi and I were basing all of our reads around frogster!scum world cause, it just doesn't make sense for town to be like frogster was... like, why not go "oh yeah I'm town, now I'll help solve" no.. frogster did 0 solving and was constantly like "lol no rush! still have 2 days to solve the bomb" "lol no rush still have hours!!"

it's just like, we HAVE to lim frogster... there is no way anyone lives after that performance
100% agreed.

Frogsterking
does not get to stay in the game after that PT. It is absolutely anti-town to not eliminate him.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:21 am
by Frogsterking
After I flip town, and you flip 1 of these 3 to confirm if my theory about the setup is real,

Remember:

Andante, andres, Greeting scum

scum have abilities that manipulate the hoods at night. Andante has an ability that enables her to switch places with one of the defusers that seems to be on even nights. andres has an ability that does something similar on odd nights.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:21 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
wait frogster claimed macho cop?

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:22 am
by Dwlee99
Can we get unvotes to allow check-in + heal votes? I don't want to wait another 72 hours doing nothing if I don't get put in a hood just yet.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:22 am
by Andante
In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?
in the PT yeah

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:22 am
by Andante
In post 2342, Andante wrote:
In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?
in the PT yeah
the same PT he was calling catboi maf

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:23 am
by Frogsterking
In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?
Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop to imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:23 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2273, Andante wrote:
In post 2257, Andante wrote:Ok, Summarizing catboi's for yall here

Townreads, strongest to weakest: Andante, Andres, Greeting, Bell, VP Baltar, Menalque, GuiltyLion, Pooky, Enchant

Null Reads: Titus, Cephrir, CSF, Mistyx

Scum Reads: Frogsterking, dwlee, StrangeMatter, Malakittens

so with that, I'll

HEAL: Enchant
HEAL: GuiltyLion
@VP here was catboi's reads
yes, thank you!

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:25 am
by Frogsterking
If catboi's role is real then I don't know why he didn't just claim that he was the one who made himself the defuser; I would have believed him then.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:25 am
by StrangeMatter
In post 2329, Andante wrote:And on another note, Strange is in scum meta!! I was looking at meta after SRing posts this game, and the performance here mirrors a past scum game, so Strange is for sure mafia
Yes just latch onto meta (even when I was scum, there are times where people have incorrectly meta read me and townread off that) and prove Lukewarm right, along with the saying that meta reading me has rarely ever actually been right on me.

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:25 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 2344, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?
Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop to
imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.

wait what? how does claiming macho cop prevent you from getting NK'd?

So it was a fakeclaim?

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:27 am
by Frogsterking
In post 2348, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2344, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2340, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:wait frogster claimed macho cop?
Yes. After catboi claimed "innocent child daredevil" I thought he was going to flip scum so I claimed macho cop to
imply I was a bomb so I didn't get nightkilled.

wait what? how does claiming macho cop prevent you from getting NK'd?

So it was a fakeclaim?
Because I was scum hunting really aggressively and obviously didn't believe catboi's claim at the time I countered with my own fake claim, so from a scum POV the only reason I would claim to be a macho cop would be if I were a Bomb and wanted to eat an NK.