↑Majiffy wrote:Oh right it was just OMGUS bullshit you wanted to explain away by "meta I can't reveal".
Really I was too lazy to figure out why I read you as scum in the first place, but why not pretend like it's meta instead?
↑buldermar wrote:I'm not going to explain why Majiffy is scum because it is based on meta and I play a lot of games with him.
LYNCH THIS.
this doesn't look like a lie
if anything, this looks like its
extra true
since buldermar isn't making shit up to convince us, hes just telling it like it is
You pushing on it this ridiculously hard makes you look like scum who is pushing a lynch for something that is "technically" scummy (lying) but not actually scummy at all, that way when buldermar flips town you can be all "whaaa?" like you had no idea
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:53 am
by Majiffy
Telling it like it is?
"Majiffy is scum... based on meta"
"... pretend like it's meta ...?"
In the latter quote (first in the OP), he poses his question in such a way to allude that meta was in no way a part of his scum read on me.
In the former (second in the OP), he is clearly calling the entire read a meta read.
This is contradictory, if not full-out lying.
By the by, I'm voting and pushing Buldermar for more than just this. Maybe you should read the thread.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:55 am
by Majiffy
Also, I get a real chuckle out of this.
↑Bacde wrote:yeah you didn't catch buldermar in a lie buddy
↑Bacde wrote:you look like scum who is pushing a lynch for something that is "technically" scummy (lying)
Good job walking back entirely everything you've already said.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:58 am
by Bacde
you didn't understand me
a lot of times people misinterpret me
I'm saying that you are calling out buldermar on a technicality, and that he didnt actually lie in the way you are acting like he did, and that you didn't give the situation at hand a good subjective viewpoint based on context
its the type of argument that scum like to make, since its safe
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:00 pm
by Majiffy
Either he did or he didn't lie. There is no gray area here.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:00 pm
by Majiffy
And you're still ignoring the fact that
I have been voting him. For a long time. For reasons other than his lying.
I think there's two different interpretations of Buldermar's post going on here. One where he was claiming that Majiffy was pretending that it was a meta read, and one where Buldermar was admitting that he just claimed it was a meta read because he was too lazy to justify it.
The former is my (and everyone else's interpretation, I think) and its backed up by Buldermar's "Maybe I do have the memory of a goldfish" or whatever post, and the latter is Bacde's (likely incorrect) interpretation.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:12 pm
by Messiah
I should also add that bacde should stop being such a dumbass and pay attention.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:14 pm
by Bacde
messiah you're very respectful and I thank you for that
and I demand the right to hold a contrarian opinion in this thread
I will use my mod-granted longshot rifle to back up my right to do so so you have been warned
pedit nevermind
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:17 pm
by Majiffy
Oh great, Bacde is the fringe 2nd-Amendment nut of the game.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:18 pm
by Majiffy
YOU THINK I'M WRONG, WELL THEN LET'S SEE YOU SAY THAT TO MY
RIFLE
.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:18 pm
by Messiah
I don't think you would be misunderstanding the meaning of the posts if you had read the rest of Buldermar's posts after that, though. That's what I'm saying. You can only go so long not reading and flailing about with random accusations before it starts to become incredibly annoying.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:21 pm
by Bacde
↑Messiah wrote:I don't think you would be misunderstanding the meaning of the posts if you had read the rest of Buldermar's posts after that, though. That's what I'm saying. You can only go so long not reading and flailing about with random accusations before it starts to become incredibly annoying.
Ok I'm gonna read the rest of his posts after that right now
buldey I know you are grinning as you type all of this out you scummy little scummery scumscum you.
you got your hand caught in the cookie jar
You're mistaking. Like I've said previously, I don't lose games as scum. You're best off lynching me when you can't find a single reason to do so, not when you think there is a trillion of reasons. This is because I'm well capable of manipulating you succesfully. In this game, I havn't really done anything to live up to my reputation as town, I know that. But I also have made a lot of mistakes that I would have never made had I been scum.
If you want to, you can ask me questions now. I'll answer them carefully and detailed. I'll reread things to do so. It's entirely up to you, but I don't think you really have anything to lose from it.
I'm sorry that I havn't really been taking this game seriously and that I havn't done much to contribute. I do have excuses, but that's besides the point.
Your defence is "I don't lose as scum and you want to lynch me here so clearly I'm not scum"?
Really?
My defence against what? I'm still waiting for the reasons why I'm considered scum. The fact that I do not lose as scum is nothing but that - a fact. I'll defend myself once I understand why people think I'm scum,
aside from the fact that I've been trolling and I havn't been following the game carefully and I have been lying.
For what it's worth,
all of these are not alignment indicative as the more experienced players in this game will know.
right here
whats not to believe about this post?
I am one of those more expierenced plahyers that buldermar is talking about
I can see truth!
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:29 pm
by Majiffy
Right, and a player such as buldermar knows that ATE is heavily effective.
Frankly, there's no reason for a town-aligned player to admittingly, knowingly and willingly be playing anti-town, trolling, and not reading.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:31 pm
by Knight of Cydonia
No. It's both AtE and "lol i trol u", both of which are shitty argument.
And even if it was truth, which I doubt, if he's going to spend the whole game trolling, he can fuck right off anyway, and you can go with him. We have enough lurkers (hi Guile!) without that shit to put up with as well.
Pedit:
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:32 pm
by Bacde
Ok thats actually a pretty good argument and is true
if we don't get rid of buldermar now he will stay til lylo and thats 100% true
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:33 pm
by Bacde
which would be bad for town
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:34 pm
by Bacde
Alright buldermar you should claim because I'm claiming
Intent to hammer
premptively
meaning as soon as you are at L-1
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:36 pm
by Knight of Cydonia
I refer you to my earlier comments vis-a-vis flipflopping, with an added dollop of:
if you couldn't see the multiple posts where Buldermar had lied and already stated that he was fucking around and not really playing, are you not reading this game at all or just choosing to ignore points until they're pushed in your face to where you can't avoid bussing?
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:38 pm
by Bacde
I'm gonna choose whichever option results in you having a lower opinion of me
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:38 pm
by Bacde
cuz however you wanna insult me, I'm town so whatever
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:39 pm
by Bacde
seriously dude you need to learn to be happy when people come to your side of the bandwagon
