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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:47 am
by Untrod Tripod
Counterpoint: letks lynch NS

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:14 am
by Shadoweh
In post 2349, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 2348, Shadoweh wrote: Also, I'm not sure how much anyone cares, but maybe not putting Venmar at L-2 would be a good idea since he can hammer himself if he wants to? Tim Hortons should at least send out a card first.
Except Venmar doesn't require one less vote today? Please do read the votecount, just two posts above yours.
Out of curiousity, you did read Day 1, specifically how it ended, right? Please read the mafia game and remember things that happened in it.
BTW if Venmar isn't scum and feels like fullclaiming that would be cool too. I'm p sure you held back something but its impossible to make it past Tom Daley and check

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:10 am
by Zdenek
Looking at this page, it would take something really compelling to get me to vote for NS.

Anyway, I don't think that I'll be able to read properly until Friday.
I'll be back then.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:55 am
by Lost Butterfly

Day 4, VC 2
Venmar (4) -
Cerulean,
Nero Cain
, Untrod Tripod, Nobody Special

Not voting - (7):
Shadoweh, Zdenek, Plum, Venmar, Tim Howard, Flipping Awesome, xRECKONERx

With
11
alive it takes
6
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
17th of June at 3:30pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-06-16 22:30:45)

Plum is V/la. Tammy's head is V/la.[/area]

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:04 pm
by Venmar
I'm a Majiffy Fanboy, I have a passive day-ability called
DFTBA
, which informs me that Thor is in the game, and makes it so that any wagon that both me and the player playing as Thor are on will gain an extra vote that will appear as "Sheep Majiffy or Thor" in the votecount. I am not told who the player playing as Thor actually is, however, and since my night ability isn't useful, I purposely instantly wanted to subtly find out who Thor was in several posts, such as my first post (#8), and most of my posts in interaction with Nero Cain, after I started to suspect him as Thor.

I also have a night ability called
"Go with the Flow"
, that allows me to make a certain player sheep me as per the flowchart. This makes any and all actions performed by my target instead target me for the night. I am told that this is a X-2 Shot ability, and that my target will be informed of me dragging them to me, if applicable to their role. By my understanding, this essentially makes me a Self-Redirector/Single Target Lightning Rod.

I haven't used my night action at all this game because I view it as mostly as a negative utility, as it's a very hit and miss role that can simply fuck over any and all town poweroles, which I figured were in high quantity early on. It's a role I only feel confident in using to shut down certain players, but even then if I do this to scum they can just be the killer and i'll die, so I decided to instead try to focus on utilizing my passive ability, but working with Nero Cain is something I gave up on almost immediately because it just hasn't been possible and I don't have the nerve or patience to do so.

Vote: Untrod Tripod

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:08 pm
by Nero Cain
You have a funny way of trying to work with me.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:13 pm
by Venmar
I explicitly said I refused to do so you imbecile

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:29 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 2356, Venmar wrote:I explicitly said I refused to do so you imbecile
In post 2354, Venmar wrote:but working with Nero Cain is something I gave up on
something I gave up on
gave up on
But I mean...its not like you tried very hard (if at all). A summary of our interactions so far is:

Venmar: The Kats lynch is bad 'cause its a policy lynch
Nero: no its not
Venmar: Yes it is, you are voting Kats on policy
Nero: Dude, no I'm not. I don't see any town motivation in miscategorizing the lynch like that. *votes Venmar*
Venmar: O MAH GOD U SUX!<---fake rage


At no point did you ever attempt to work with me (or the rest of the town) at all.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:39 pm
by Venmar
BECAUSE YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED, I AM NOT GOING OVER THAT SHIT WITH YOU AGAIN

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:48 pm
by Nero Cain
your faux rage is cute.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:02 pm
by Untrod Tripod
loldongs venmar is so cute as flailing scum

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:29 pm
by Venmar
thanks

peace, ill be back to see if you guys have mislynched me, not going to put up with y'all

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:41 pm
by Untrod Tripod
ha ha

oh wow

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:19 pm
by Nobody Special
In post 2351, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 2349, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 2348, Shadoweh wrote: Also, I'm not sure how much anyone cares, but maybe not putting Venmar at L-2 would be a good idea since he can hammer himself if he wants to? Tim Hortons should at least send out a card first.
Except Venmar doesn't require one less vote today? Please do read the votecount, just two posts above yours.
Out of curiousity, you did read Day 1, specifically how it ended, right? Please read the mafia game and remember things that happened in it.
BTW if Venmar isn't scum and feels like fullclaiming that would be cool too. I'm p sure you held back something but its impossible to make it past Tom Daley and check
Day One was a very, very long time ago. Now that you've prodded my memory, yes, I recall.

And Venmar self-hammering would be a good thing, IMO.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:58 pm
by Flipping Awesome
I am still okay with a Venmar lynch but I don't want to rush it. I want to re-read the entire game again to develop more reads. I'll post in more detail tomorrow.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:52 am
by Shadoweh
Venmar: No offense but if you're town you should have tried to use that Lightningish Rod power to get nightkilled last night. If you're not going to use your role and effectively be VT since Nero won't vote with you, what was your gameplan after yesterday anyways? Your reasoning for hammering LLD is very much 'I wanted to survive'. Well, it's the next day, you survived. Now what?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:53 am
by Lost Butterfly
Prodding Tim Howard


Flipping Awesome have probably fallen asleep

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:46 am
by xRECKONERx
Pretty interested in hearing why Venmar wanted to survive if he didn't use his ability.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:08 am
by Cerulean
I'm still here! And going to read.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:21 am
by Cerulean
...so apparently, I didn't miss much.

I probably need to go through the game again, especially since I wasn't around for most of Day 3, but my reads haven't really changed. I still think Venmar needs to get deaded fast. Still strongly townreading Zdenek and F-16, still thinking NS, Reck, and UT are very probably town. Nero isn't scum with Venmar. And yet, I still can't shake the feeling that there's something very wrong with this game.

Maybe when I come back tonight drunk I'll have a flash of inspiration or something.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:23 am
by Tim Howard
I agree with Shadoweh and Reck re: venmar's ability. Not exactly the towniest play as someone who is heavily suspected to not attempt to eat the scum NK intentionally.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:24 am
by Tim Howard
IN FACT

VOTE: venmar

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:15 am
by Nobody Special
In post 2367, xRECKONERx wrote:Pretty interested in hearing why Venmar wanted to survive if he didn't use his ability.
What he said.


-Nobody Special

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:35 am
by Venmar
In post 2367, xRECKONERx wrote:Pretty interested in hearing why Venmar wanted to survive if he didn't use his ability.
Because I am town and using my ability would either endanger me or screw some town powerrole.

Yeah, Shadoweh, I am essentially a VT since I find my role not that good and because Nero is stupid, but I guess I just don't know how I felt about getting mislynched yesterday, I wanted to roll the dice on LLD before that came to, as I did have problems with LLD's reasoning on UT re: my posts 2123, 2126, and 2129. I was wrong, wow whatever. At least I got to survive until this day to try and redeem myself, but I doubt i'll get justice here anyways, so I might as well try and avenge LLD by lynching UT.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:04 pm
by Shadoweh
If you're playing as a VT and you're likely to get lynched the next day why would you care about endangering yourself? Like, it's practically the job of VT's to get themselves killed. You had to have realized people would want to speedlynch you today, did you think you were worth more then chamber/tammeh/other obvtown? Like.. if you have scum suspects I feel like you'd at least try to target them and see what happens. <_<