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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:08 am
by BROseidon
It's a commentary on how stupid the thing farside said is.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:08 am
by Cephrir
In post 2336, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 2295, BROseidon wrote:Ceph are you scum?
It does look like it.
holy balls dude you change your mind on everything every four seconds

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:09 am
by BROseidon
In post 2349, Cephrir wrote:It is though, your statement implied the wagon was majority scum.
It's not implied.

It's literally explicitly stated.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:09 am
by Cephrir
True!

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:25 am
by DiamondSentinel
Well, it is true that town-reading bro implies that either you think MJ is town or that bro would lie/gambit and be strictly anti-town. Or that the game is somewhat bastard.

Although you can very easily TR MJ without TRing Bro. Mechanically, this makes most sense. Play-wise, it's the less logical of the alternatives.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:37 am
by keyenpeydee
In post 2351, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2336, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 2295, BROseidon wrote:Ceph are you scum?
It does look like it.
holy balls dude you change your mind on everything every four seconds
Atleast i'm not sticking to something. I'm trying to play the game :p :roll:

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:39 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Well the last few pages are another sign that Diamond Sentinel is probably Town. There is no momentum from anyone to actually do anything. Just mostly spam and non-relevenant to scum-hunting content. Surprise surprise … scum probably feel they are in a comfy position and don’t feel like they have to even pretend they are trying to solve the game.

I mean look at hiplop’s ISO and tell me that Town much less Town who played well enough in a game working with other Town to earn a “Best Town Performance” banner.

But no-one seems to be willing to join me on hiplop and Bro is a perfectly cromulent lynch that has some momentum.

VOTE: Bro

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In post 2267, DiamondSentinel wrote:Ok, nevermind. I can't find it, and I guess I just had some deja vu. I have that crap all the time. So I dunno.
So we are back to the position where if you want people to take your suggestion seriously you need to provide a compelling reason why we should mass flavor claim. Given your VT claim I doubt you have one.

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In post 2282, Cephrir wrote:What part of "not appearing in this reads list" sounds like "scum" to you
Nope nope nope.

Either you think that MJ is confirmed Town via Bro’s vouching for him or you think Bro is lying about it and scum. That’s the only way you can’t get to a Town read on MJ.

Yet Bro sits in your Town tier and MJ is “not on the list” for reasons that can’t possibly be sane.

So what is your stance on MJ again?
In post 2300, Cephrir wrote:ordinarily i would say unfortunately but this game im much happier i can at least feel self righteous.
Lol. That’s so funny.

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In post 2312, Firebringer wrote:Don't know how Diamond is leaning town or I am null for you.
What exactly do you think you’ve done that would that would make anyone think you are Town Fire? Voted for an obviously poor lynch on Town Day 1? Pulled at stupid fake-guilty play Day 2?

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In post 2315, BROseidon wrote:This game is morons idk why we try
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:41 am
by Transcend
well

pedit: VOTE: bro

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:48 am
by keyenpeydee
VOTE: Bro

I am open to answering questions.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:49 am
by Grib
UNVOTE:

Hey MJ, remind me why Bro is town again? "Because he confirmed I'm a Friendly Neighbor!" will not count as an answer.

fake edit: hey keyen, I dare you to have any consistency in your vote for a whole five pages.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:52 am
by Cephrir
In post 2356, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Nope nope nope.

Either you think that MJ is confirmed Town via Bro’s vouching for him or you think Bro is lying about it and scum. That’s the only way you can’t get to a Town read on MJ.

Yet Bro sits in your Town tier and MJ is “not on the list” for reasons that can’t possibly be sane.

So what is your stance on MJ again?
obviously no one can understand this.

yes, they're town, because they have to be. i don't know why no one can read my posts clearly enough to notice this very obvious thing

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:53 am
by keyenpeydee
In post 2359, Grib wrote: Hey MJ, remind me why Bro is town again? "Because he confirmed I'm a Friendly Neighbor!" will not count as an answer.

fake edit: hey keyen, I dare you to have any consistency in your vote for a whole five pages.
Wdym?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:57 am
by DiamondSentinel
@MoI Flavor gives information.

Scum don't need information right now. Town does. Ergo, it's in our best interest to claim flavor.

Additionally, since we have no credible night action claims, then I would personally prefer to get information in the form of flavor.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:01 am
by Cephrir
Scum do need information so they can nightkill accordingly

Also, in a decently well modded game, flavor should give no alignment information and only a little role information at most

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:04 am
by Transcend
i guess i'll trust farside today even though she was dead-wrong yesterday.

ha-ha-ha

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:08 am
by Transcend
oh wait far voted hippy not waco kid olololo

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:09 am
by Transcend
ok ye i can maybe trust far's judgment. her vote was on a slot i fosed a lil bit yesterday. now it's on a slot i don't particularly townread but think there's better lynches to, but wouldn't mind see eating rope.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:12 am
by Cephrir
im not really sure what the point of those posts was^

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:14 am
by DiamondSentinel
In post 2363, Cephrir wrote:Scum do need information so they can nightkill accordingly

Also, in a decently well modded game, flavor should give no alignment information and only a little role information at most
A decently well modded game doesn't have 7 possible strongman kills in a single night, or a role that can become completely deathproof. I could go on ad naseum.

The point is that it can't hurt or more than it helps us.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:16 am
by Transcend
me neither

maybe i'm just bullshitting content to look like i'm town

who knows man

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:20 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 2362, DiamondSentinel wrote:@MoI Flavor gives information.

Scum don't need information right now. Town does. Ergo, it's in our best interest to claim flavor.

Additionally, since we have no credible night action claims, then I would personally prefer to get information in the form of flavor.
Town has plenty of information. Imperium's flip is a goldmine. This has been discussed to death already today.

If your reasoning is "Dayhunting is hard" then don't expect anyone who doesn't think like you do (aka most players) to support it.

But enlighten me - had you gotten a Clifford the Big Red Dog claim out of Spiffeh / Camt without the VT claim what info would that have told you?

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:23 am
by Cephrir
In post 2368, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 2363, Cephrir wrote:Scum do need information so they can nightkill accordingly

Also, in a decently well modded game, flavor should give no alignment information and only a little role information at most
A decently well modded game doesn't have 7 possible strongman kills in a single night, or a role that can become completely deathproof. I could go on ad naseum.

The point is that it can't hurt or more than it helps us.
I don't think that's true, though. Suppose I claimed to be Yakko Warner (I am not). How would that help you?

I mean, this is kind of a useless discussion, because towns are very resistant to things like this anyways and it just plain isn't going to happen. But... yeah...

pedit: basically what moi said.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:23 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 2360, Cephrir wrote:obviously no one can understand this.

yes, they're town, because they have to be. i don't know why no one can read my posts clearly enough to notice this very obvious thing
Well first the don't have to be. It could be a gambit. But that aside if they "have to be Town" why not bother to include them in your list in whatever slot is Town? The whole "Mr. Not Appearing in This List" thing makes little sense to those looking for a logic thought process from you.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:32 am
by keyenpeydee
Explaining my vote:

I suspect bro. It's maybe a gut feeling. But I would most likely be sheeping since that's what I always do. Like I said, I am open for questions.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:33 am
by BROseidon
In post 2354, DiamondSentinel wrote:Or that the game is somewhat bastard.
Uh...
In post 94, Eleven wrote:Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No) - No