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It is not relevant to A2 unless I don't understand? If you walk out and the game is not over then I should walk out or I am scum claiming - aren't you saying that dan is town then? Or if scum we lose?

Right sorry i'm at a keyboard let me break this down.

1: There is one scum player left alive.
2: With two pairs alive, the town in a town-scum pair can self-vote and therefore town can still win by having a single town-town pair left alive in endgame.
3: Hebi is confirmed town.

We can agree all three of these are true, yeah?

Yep!

From an outside point of view; here are the remaining player slots left alive:
Cabd - A2
Priscila - Assemblerotws
ActionDan -

Agreed?

Agreed.

In post 2354, Cabd wrote:From an outside point of view; here are the remaining player slots left alive:
Cabd - A2
Priscila - Assemblerotws
ActionDan -

hebichan

Agreed?

And from my point of view:
- A2
Priscila - Assemblerotws
ActionDan -

And from your point of view:

Cabd - A2
- Assemblerotws
ActionDan -

All good so far?

Yep!

(You can probably put the whole run-down in one post, it might be a little faster/easier.)

So, you can cross out two of the three lines.

From a pure statistical play, crossing out both the lines containing one confirmed town is suboptimal.

BUT if your scumread on a player (IE acitondan) outweighs your combines scumread on both the other slots, then you can do so.

So the question is, which two lines do you cross out?

Does your scumread of ActionDan outweigh your combined scumread on myself and A2? Are you willing to let a potential scum Mint slot win?


{Or, if your answer is "I don't know and I want to double check and read more, that's entirely fine}

Well that is kind of what I was saying before - I scum read A2 the most but I want to sort in assemble/dan to figure out which one I think is scum if A2 is not scum.

Then you should sort between Dan and Assemble tonight; and once you've made your choice and we talk it over with Hebi, we can lynch me slash A2. The timer is very quickly approaching and I'd rather lose via scum endgaming than lose to the clock.

My reads have been incorrect all game though. I don't usually get good reads until I have been involved in a game for a while and I have not been involved so even with the whole game to look back upon I do not really trust myself to have any kind of an accurate read here, to be honest.

In post 2362, Cabd wrote:Then you should sort between Dan and Assemble tonight; and once you've made your choice and we talk it over with Hebi, we can lynch me slash A2. The timer is very quickly approaching and I'd rather lose via scum endgaming than lose to the clock.

Yeah. We have 3 days - I will have time tomorrow. Maybe some time tonight if I am lucky, it depends.

Assemble is due for a prod, though.

Yes. I think assemble may have flaked... saw them replaced out of another game iirc?

Lemme see if I can find it.

What are your availabilities, Cabd? I would appreciate your feedback on reads.

I'm gonna be around all of today and tomorrow.

OK. Talk soon, then.

Sure. See you tomorrow. Until everyone checks in; Walking out is an antitown move so nobody do it~

In post 2305, hebichan wrote:Or it could be she thought you were just trolling. It would be way too early for you to troll.

Cabd does bully me all of the time <_<

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In post 2329, Cabd wrote:If Hebi and Dan are down with that plan, (And we're willing to lose if dan is scum) we can do this:

Either you and I walk. If the game isn't over; the remaining one instavotes themself. Hebiu and dan hammer.

I am okay with this but I want to get reads first.


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In post 2330, Priscila wrote:

In post 2327, Cabd wrote:The game can legit end right now with an assured town win if you and I are both sure of dan-town.

I scum read Dan.

Why does it feel like you're just trying to keep your options open at this point?
I mean
thats what you have to do if you're scum here.
Tho um
I sorta have an idea I thought about while making this catchup post.
I'll cover it in my next post.

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In post 2338, Priscila wrote:I don't like Dan's lack of response to his 100% scum read flipping town. Also, Mint said he would refuse to dance if he had to partner with one of Key or Dan, which is weak reasoning but it is still weird.

What don't you like about it? What abouts this wierds you out atm? Can you open up to me so I can understand your thought process?

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In post 2341, Priscila wrote:OK I am going to come back tomorrow and reread and solve this properly. I do not have time now. I think that A2 is scum but Radiant town read her. More important I think is to solve in assemble/dan.

Agreed. What I want most right now is for Assemble to make a post. You doing this will help me sort you better right now because Idunno if I feel good about you

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In post 2343, Priscila wrote:

In post 2342, Cabd wrote:I don't think I'd ever town read you and your flaker more than Dan so at this point we are just watching the clock tick down. The me and A2 pair cannot be left alive at endgame.

If A2 is not scum then I will put effort into the game. If we lose I would prefer to lose without having done any effort all game. I will almost always walk out than lynch Dan though, just because I think assemble to win as scum like this would be disgusting, if Dan would win as scum then it's just meh, whatever, he was scummy but he at least put effort in so I do not mind that much.

This kinda pings me here.
Let's say I walk out now and Pris is scum (Note: I don't plan on walking out until atleast asemble posts and I can get reads)
I mean
at that point they're basicly put into a really uncomfortable position where they have to make atleast some kind of move here.
Otherwise they get cornered and they lose.
Regardless, they have to try.

VOTE: Cabd-A2
I feel like the way we approach the next day is if we somehow manage to not win here, instead of walking out we just vote and force whoever IS scum to come out in the open.
I feel like if this is done through lynching instead of just walking out we're force who IS scum to in fact reveal themselves making the process faster.

All right. If you're fine with this plan....
VOTE: Cabd-A2

Well, if you're fine with this plan....
VOTE: Cabd-A2