Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

DrewVa · Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:51 pm

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=16176

Chick scumgame. Chick’s meta isn’t AI.

Creature · Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:51 pm

Do you think we should stick with the Clemency lynch?

DrewVa · Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:51 pm

In post 2350, DrewVa wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=16176

Chick scumgame. Chick’s meta isn’t AI.

I mean, activity. d’oh.

Creature · Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:51 pm

If we do, we should probably just end this day.

DrewVa · Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:52 pm

In post 2343, Creature wrote:Yeh, I'm not liking Gamma this game

In post 2344, Creature wrote:Anyone townreads Gamma?

Why do you dislike Gamma?

Nero Cain · Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:54 pm

Nancy, pls don't replace out like you did last game.

Creature · Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:54 pm

In post 2354, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2343, Creature wrote:Yeh, I'm not liking Gamma this game

In post 2344, Creature wrote:Anyone townreads Gamma?
Why do you dislike Gamma?

He disappeared when I called him being unnoticeable.

Creature · Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:55 pm

Usually I forget a lot about what someone has been doing when they're scum.

DrewVa · Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:58 pm

In post 2351, Creature wrote:Do you think we should stick with the Clemency lynch?

I honestly have no idea. But from ISOing her in a scumgame, her low activity in this game is NAI. I’ll sheep to avoid a no lynch. I’m just not confident it’s flipping red.

What do you think of that wagon? I think Bujaber or DGB gives us more information. \_0_/

Creature · Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:58 pm

I don't know much about BuJaber either

also I don't feel like DGB is an aight lynch

Creature · Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:59 pm

Dunno, Gamma rn is the one most striking me as scum but that's about it

Creature · Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:59 pm

Usually I'd just vote someone and see if I should keep the wagon or move elsewhere

but majority being 14 votes complicates things up

DrewVa · Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:59 pm

In post 2355, Nero Cain wrote:Nancy, pls don't replace out like you did last game.

If you’re referring to anything other than CoH, it wasn’t by choice.

pinturicchio · Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:01 pm

In post 2361, Creature wrote:Usually I'd just vote someone and see if I should keep the wagon or move elsewhere

but majority being 14 votes complicates things up

The thing is, you had enough time to start pushing a wagon on Gamma, but you waited a couple of days to start posting, to then again not post anything and come back once more. Of course you won't get a wagon moving with that inconsistency

Creature · Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:02 pm

I'm having trouble with my "i gotta read all pages and reply to them" syndrome

Creature · Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:02 pm

just got out of it

Alonzo · Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:03 pm

I saw him first

Creature · Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:06 pm

So what do you say?

Thor665 · Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:06 pm

In post 2345, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2341, DrewVa wrote:He was saying that personality styles are harder to change than playstyles, right? What was your issue with that?
He did say that.
I asked him if he saw it as town or scum sided for you.
He claimed neither.
So my issue is - why am I wasting time reading him investigating a question that he doesn't think will tell him your alignment.

But back to my original question to you - why do you TOWN read it?

@DrewVa

Nero Cain · Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:09 pm

Hey Thor, you were imterested enough to ask Pint why he's scum reading me. What do you think of his reasoning?

Alonzo · Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:09 pm

too late to get him today.

Vote Clem and bring on D2.

@creature

Creature · Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:11 pm

In post 2370, Alonzo wrote:too late to get him today.

Vote Clem and bring on D2.

@creature

Did Clem claim?

DrewVa · Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:14 pm

In post 2368, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2345, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2341, DrewVa wrote:He was saying that personality styles are harder to change than playstyles, right? What was your issue with that?
He did say that.
I asked him if he saw it as town or scum sided for you.
He claimed neither.
So my issue is - why am I wasting time reading him investigating a question that he doesn't think will tell him your alignment.

But back to my original question to you - why do you TOWN read it?
@DrewVa

In post 2299, BuJaber wrote:
In post 2291, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2284, BuJaber wrote:Gamma I would have switched to DGB if I thought there was enough time to lynch that slot but it seems futile. Why don't you like the clem wagon?
What changed from the time DGB was one of the leading wagons to now? There was absolutely a chance to wagon DGB and it fell apart pretty quickly.
She was vaguely scummy before, but she continued not to post solidifying the read. And I didn't really sense that a lot of people were willing to vote her at any point during the game. Did you notice a time in which there was?

In post 2292, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2280, BuJaber wrote:People scumreading DrewVa do you have scum meta of Nancy being aggressive and all up in people's business? Because it feels like she took a confidence booster shot between overkill 1 and 2.

I know her meta arguments are pretty weak and her perspective seems severely biased
I just don't see it being scummy for her.
Are you claiming scum Nancy is never aggressive/town Nancy is aggressive?

Neither. I'm asking for confirmation that she can have this much range in her confidence or an explanation for her change in approach from overkill 1. My impression was that it's more than a playstyle thing it's a personality thing which is much harder to change from game to game.

He is saying he isn’t scumreading me because he thinks I’m far more confident in this game, than in Overkill 1, and he doesn’t think that’s easily fakeable?

@Bujaber, is this correct?

So, the thought process isn’t surfacey.

Thor665 · Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:29 pm

In post 2369, Nero Cain wrote:Hey Thor, you were imterested enough to ask Pint why he's scum reading me. What do you think of his reasoning?

I don't agree with it but it looked town minded.
i town read him.

In post 2372, DrewVa wrote:He is saying he isn’t scumreading me because he thinks I’m far more confident in this game, than in Overkill 1, and he doesn’t think that’s easily fakeable?

@Bujaber, is this correct?

So, the thought process isn’t surfacey.

Welcome to the conversation I'm already having with him - feel free to try to parse Post 2299 yourself.

Now, back to my original question again - why do you town read him for this. Let;s even say your interpretation is 100% correct - why do you town read him for it?
Please try to answer me this time.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:35 pm

In post 2308, pinturicchio wrote:but then you started projecting about the whole "people is defending scum" when nobody was doing that

I mean, I never saw Chick as really scummy and then I started scum reading some of the Chick voters and other than this recent spam posting he was being a lurksack so assuming Chick was town I wouldn't blame her for scumreading him. I think its completely plausible that a townChick that scumreads scumCreature says "oh yeah, lets push the town that's reading our scumbuddy." I mean, unless you are scum there's no way to know whether this is happening or not so it's odd that you are adamant that that's not happening.

In post 2308, pinturicchio wrote:This was one of those cases.

but unless you and Clem are scum together there's no way that you knew this situation called for withholding your thoughts.