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In post 2344, Michael Scott wrote:

In post 2342, mbaki wrote:JE is pretty blatantly town from d1, my friend. I think he's my third strongest town read after Parm (tbf this isn't a read) and other RC.

Yes. And there's reason to believe JE is responsible for the Brigitte lynch by virtue of the Keen votes, this should objectively make him town by RC's apparent definitions of it.

So you either believe JE isn't responsible for the Keen votes, or he bussed with a triple vote. Which one?

RC, relax.

This is BoP. You're fine.

Almost everyone here is at least somewhat competent and capable of reading the game on our own.

We won't instalynch anyone, and if someone quickhammers before we're ready, we're competent enough to put 'em in the dirt the next day.

Just play mafia, dude. I feel like it's my mission to make this fun again for you, to the best of my ability. Just relax.

just for the love of fucking god if all i have done are town motivated things don't call me scum for them on day fucking 2 when someone is literally claiming a doc save on me right after I powerlynched a widely townread scum

there's two kinds of scum games i play. one type are scum games where I rolled scum and i'm like fuck my life and i don't want to play scum where I do the bare minimum necessary generally these days
this constitutes the majority of my scum games from the start of the games. i am absurdly good as scum but i rarely tap into any of that because really, after all these years? fuck playing scum.

the only time i actually try hard is when someone pisses me off by pushing a policy wagon on me. and I let anyone pushing a policy wagon on me come close to getting a lynch.
it just so happens that the only wagons that ever get pushed on me are policy wagons, so yeah fuck no. i go 9/0.

if you really want to win games versus scum me, the only way you're ever going to do that is to not put scum me in a position where i refuse to lose.

you are going to beat me any other way and after all this time people should realize that's just facts.

In post 2349, RadiantCowbells wrote:ok, like, I'm sorry for exaggerating my push? I feel like you know that I exaggerate pushes and test the waters with reads?

i feel like if you think I'm this super good town god who is never going to lead wrong on you then you should give me the space to lead on you and see what happens

i even wanted to wait and see how people reacted to your tirade against me but I was afraid that it would hurt my standing in a bad way

I asked if it was serious for a reason. vt!me wouldn't ask that.

but there's something i'm not telling you, and all i'm saying is, you think too little of me you'll see what i mean tomorrow or whenever i explain.

i firmly believe johnny is town and its not a lynch today.

i lost 2 scum games in the recent past.

team mafia where cheekyteeky and others' unhappiness with the gamestate led me to not play to win it at a point where I was far ahead on votes against chesskid and everything was going exactly how i wanted it
and a game on MU where dunno I just didn't feel like playing because fuck rolling scum, so I got lynched d1. sole game I ever lost on MU as scum as well.

you'll note the correlating factor being me just ont caring.

you will not beat me if you've pissed me off and made me not want to lose as scum. you will certainly not create those environments where i'm willing to lose as scum by policy pushing me all the time.

Dunno if this is addressed to me, but for the record, all I did was not call you a confident townread of mine, and this was before the doc claim.

Unfair accusations.

and bluntly the #1 reason i lose games as town as well is because i decide that a townie is a fuckhead and lynching him is more important than playing to win. see varsoon in one of my 3 losses so far this year.

i'm not calling anyone out for anything specific right now. i'm making a statement.

In post 2357, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm not calling anyone out for anything specific right now. i'm making a statement.

Sure. When you're back to playing the game, do tell me how JE can be scum here.

if you want to win games versus scum me, put the effort into actually reading my games and understanding what the differences are because people have tried policy scumreading me for 6 years and it hasn't won them games and it has lost them a shit ton of games.

nah i'm gonna sleep. i've worked myself up too much.

hell, see saudade in BoP as well. wouldn't have compromise lynched if I didn't want to lynch the guy who claimed that they were literally unreadable god tier when they lost a shit ton of games as scum.

In post 2353, mbaki wrote:

In post 2349, RadiantCowbells wrote:ok, like, I'm sorry for exaggerating my push? I feel like you know that I exaggerate pushes and test the waters with reads?

i feel like if you think I'm this super good town god who is never going to lead wrong on you then you should give me the space to lead on you and see what happens

i even wanted to wait and see how people reacted to your tirade against me but I was afraid that it would hurt my standing in a bad way

I asked if it was serious for a reason. vt!me wouldn't ask that.

but there's something i'm not telling you, and all i'm saying is, you think too little of me you'll see what i mean tomorrow or whenever i explain.

i firmly believe johnny is town and its not a lynch today.

i thought you were softing the multivotes. I believe the multivotes are confirmed town.
In fact I think that brigitte's response >rand suggests that they knew their slot was already dead.

In post 1583, Brigitte wrote:Ive tried to remake 3-4 posts now.

I don't know what I want I am still going on V/LA.

Do whatever you want, I am annoyed by all this.

like brigitte is capable of posting, and when she's been handed a stay of execution she's gonna fight for it i think.

yeah I don't even feel like pushing this right now because even if I'm right I'll probably get scumread for it by people who disagree with me.

In post 2363, RadiantCowbells wrote:like brigitte is capable of posting, and when she's been handed a stay of execution she's gonna fight for it i think.

Wasn't she sorta pissed before this happened at one point? I need to check.

i think lovebird sorta has to be scum.

In post 1326, Brigitte wrote:

In post 1301, RadiantCowbells wrote:I want Brigitte

Not interested.

In post 1327, Brigitte wrote:

@Mod VLA till Friday

This seems to have happened before the JE vote. I don't think she would've agreed to be bussed so prematurely with a triple vote while being townread universally?

In post 2366, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think lovebird sorta has to be scum.

She does seem to have siteflaked. What in her ISO is scum indicative? Same reasons as GL?

idk. i'm not even scumreading her. i'm just finding it hard to find multiple scum slots. like

creature should be town
rc is town
rc should be town
fractured should be town
mbaki if they're not town we'll figure it out when they don't die
parm i think is town regardless
gl, claim
implo still feels town.

i don't think alonzo or lovebird are scum lol

i wonder if there's anything that acutally points to MS/JE

actually there is stuff that points to MS/JE, heh. a decent amount of it.

In post 2370, RadiantCowbells wrote:actually there is stuff that points to MS/JE, heh. a decent amount of it.

Well, Johnny has been defending me - but I'm town.

In post 2370, RadiantCowbells wrote:actually there is stuff that points to MS/JE, heh. a decent amount of it.

So - *both* JE and I decided to yolobus Brigitte, when you pushed her, inspite of her being a universal townread?

In post 2372, Michael Scott wrote:

In post 2370, RadiantCowbells wrote:actually there is stuff that points to MS/JE, heh. a decent amount of it.

So - *both* JE and I decided to yolobus Brigitte, when you pushed her, inspite of her being a universal townread?

brigitte clearly gave up on the game. she didn't exactly add a lot of utility. JE came in pushing this 'oi motherfuckers entire wagon town' shtick. Brigette's play at EoD felt like she knew she was hammered.

For the record the Mbaki push was because I believed he was the multivoter.