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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:59 am
by RadiantCowbells
For the record if town/paragon wincon is to lynch scum OR have paragons guess that's exactly 50% winrate
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:28 am
by Jingle
I think, as is shared wincons is probably better, but the design concept here is a setup where you can guarantee you're 'town' in return for a more difficult win condition.
I don't think I'd run it as is again, because honestly having town have a harder job AND a lower winrate than paragons seems ass backwards. I think honestly, this could split into two setups: one with three distinct factions and one with 2 factions, one of which is populated by people who choose to be that faction.
The more I think about it, the more I think the former should probably just be Paragons guessing preflip. Make it one Dayphase, and paragons have 14 days, with plurality lynching when they submit their guess. They're still incentivized to scumhunt and interact, but they're not necessarily on town's side. Scum wants to convince them early so that town has less time to decide on a flip. Town wants to convince them to townside so that they give town the time they need to decide.
I think my next run is gonna be the 2 faction version, though, in case anyone is interested in joining.
I also think I'm going to make Paragons work a little differently. I'll have one paragon slot necessary in signups, and then allow anyone to join as a paragon over the course of the game. I had a couple spectators join, and it occurred to me that they were basically paragons. It wouldn't have been fair to scum to let them join in without announcing it beforehand, but I think it would make spectating more fun. And besides, as a paragon you never actually have to post in the main thread.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:29 am
by Jingle
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:31 am
by Michael Scott
Auro, but Volxen will join too. If you run this after a month though, overloaded rn
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:35 am
by Jingle
Alright. I'm planning on /inning to mod now, but as I have no limit to the number of Paragons, there's no reason to pre-in. I'll let you know when it hits signups.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:39 am
by RadiantCowbells
I'll pre in to play the actual game but I might switch to paragon
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:40 am
by Jingle
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:42 am
by Enter
Thanks for playing, RC! It was so much fun to get to play with you! I have so much respect for you as a player and you have no idea how much ... Nvm!
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:44 am
by RadiantCowbells
I'm glad you guys won even if I didn't
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:45 am
by Enter
I count it as a you win, if that counts for anything.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:46 am
by RadiantCowbells
I am marking it as a loss and am down to 4/3 w/l
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:49 am
by Jingle
On the plus side, you were involved in breaking a perfect scum streak, so that's something to be proud of!
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:14 am
by Michael Scott
I think I'm 5-1 or 6-1 at this point, scum games wise.
Bah
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:00 am
by Aubrey
Shoshin and U2 nearly broke my scum streak in our last game.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 am
by u r a person 2
damn rough game
RC, If I hadn't voted Suade at the end, do you think you would have lynched me or MS?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:33 pm
by RadiantCowbells
I would have attempted and failed to lynch MS (saud wouldn't have voted with me) and i'd have ended up voting sau anyway
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:38 pm
by u r a person 2
ah, GG all
Thanks for mod, Jingle.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:39 pm
by RadiantCowbells
i thought scum was ms/sau fairly confidently when i actually lynched sau.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:43 pm
by Jingle
NP. Thanks for the entertainment, urap.
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:54 pm
by RadiantCowbells
at least i feel better that i was the best of the townies
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 pm
by u r a person 2
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:56 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:57 pm
by u r a person 2
I'm not saying you're wrong but like why
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:58 pm
by u r a person 2
Although, tbf, once I had you as a town read I had to accept never lynching shoshin ever which was not exactly helpful
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:59 pm
by u r a person 2
and i did help you to establish a game state in which you were off the table as a mislynch