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In post 2349, popsofctown wrote:

In post 2347, Day One Wagon wrote:

In post 2345, popsofctown wrote:

In post 2342, Day One Wagon wrote:FL says that scum wouldn't kill him, if they know he's caffeinated

Yes, that's not correct. With only 4 addicts (1-4 of which are scum!) scum are very much on track to win by parity, not caffiene. For example in this game state if we had an innocent child who was confirmed to be caffiene addicted, the scum would shoot that player every time.

I wouldn't kill IC, unless that IC was really strong player and I'd kill them no matter what role they are

Bingle help me with this

In post 2346, Flavor Leaf wrote:Day 1, Chandar, Marquis have one scum in them at least.

I make these kind of posts for later in the game, and then cross cancel.

In post 2317, Flavor Leaf wrote:Bingle/JJD - the towns in you wanna look at their weak ass reasoning for scumFL?

It’s literally just “oh, he’d Do that as either alignment, he’s scum.”

In post 2353, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:

In post 2317, Flavor Leaf wrote:Bingle/JJD - the towns in you wanna look at their weak ass reasoning for scumFL?

It’s literally just “oh, he’d Do that as either alignment, he’s scum.”

Excuse me??!!! Where did I say I have a SR on you??

In post 2356, popsofctown wrote:Ftr LAL is good mafia in 2019, I lynched scum off of it earlier this year

In post 2357, Chandra Nalaar wrote:I have no idea why I'm being attributed a push that I'm not making.

In post 2365, Chandra Nalaar wrote:I bet you watched/read The Secret and were like oh damn this is a really revolutionary idea

In post 2355, Bingle wrote:Marquis is old crowd. I think Chandra is older crowd. I’m not sure where DoL is coming from, tbh.

This is a good old fashioned policy wagon of the LAL variety, and the nostalgia is strong. Still it’s a red herring. It’s not going anywhere and it’s not intended to. If any of them is scum, they want you to be loud and outraged because loud outraged you is ineffective non gamesolving you. If any of them is scum, their buddies will have already told them this wagon is going nowhere fast, which means we need to look at what they’re distracting you from.

In other news, I’ve been pushing jjd and pops because they’re obvscum. I’m fucking solid on it. Like, Dannflor and sheep in that game where Nancy wouldn’t let us lynch sheep solid. Fuck it, maybe you’re right and JJD is Xtox, (he’s not, but we can have that fight after the pops red flip) but at least look at pops. She’s been making a habit of pushing people (like you with perry) into doing her dirty work for her so she can come off smelling like roses. And 2024 was both TMI-y and smug as fuck. Town sold on scum perry doesn’t just turn around and go “btw this mislynch is totally your fault kthxbye” in twilight before the flip.

In post 2113, popsofctown wrote:JJD is town

if you could like align on my reads, or on the theory arguments, either one, that'd be great.
because an 80/20 read like Pelipper was, you do still have to lynch that, vig claims or not. The probability of blocking a useful scum night action + the probability of vig disruption weighs too heavily.
If he was like, somewhat more likely to flip scum than rand, then sure you do the vigs sort it out thing
It comes off as being overly concerned about not properly emulating town!Bingle to the point you don't capture his pragmatic side I think

@FL yes I see

In post 2135, ofrhz wrote:

In post 2083, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:

In post 2065, Flavor Leaf wrote:Ofhrz was who scum was trying to lynch to allow for Pelican/Myself to shoot at each other

I'm going to tell you a story:

ofrhz, D1L, chen (formerly Gork) and I are in a PT. We are all 1-shot Doctors of

unknown sanities

. One of us is a CPR Doctor (kills the target if not attacked). One is Naive (does absolutely nothing). One is Paranoid (JK) and one is Normal Sane. We just duno which is which, so we're all semi-useless.

I suggested we all target someone in the unkillable PT, and thus become all unkillable ourselves. We only needed ONE of Vecna/Marquis to stay caffeine-free and we would proceed to lynch from outside our "new" hood until everyone else is either dead or confirmed, then we lynch Bingle (if he doesn't scum claim earlier by using his voting powers).

Although all 3 were basically against the idea and wanted to act as a caffeine buffer; it was ofrhz' arguments that smelled the most (or at all, really). The other two were trying to understand and argue with logic. ofrhz wasn't even reading the thread properly and kept asking really silly questions in an attempt to shoot down the idea (which I KNOW would have taken scum by surprise, and the only weakness would have been if BOTH Marquis & Vecna have acted on N1).

Anyway, ofrhz' arguments included (but weren't limited to) asking if we even knew we would get the reflexice RB modifier if we joined that PT... TWICE. Like it wasn't enough that it was mention in this thread on D1, and it wasn't enough D1L did answer her in the very next post, so she had to ask the same question 80 posts later after having tried several other arguments.

I'll let both D1L & chenn report what else happened in the PT, but suffice it to say

if there is scum in our PT

I'm betting the game it is ofrhz

Wow this is some A+ cherrypicking

JJD and I both came into the night scumreading each other. After some 1v1ing, I said I was starting to be unsure about JJD being scum. And then later JJD proposed that if all four of us in the doc hood townread each other, we should act as a masonry and target the reflexive RB hood to be NK immune.

I said that didn't make sense because none of us were likely NK targets, so it just seemed like a waste of caffeine, and we didn't even all townread each other anyway.

Anyway there wasn't that much interest in JJD's plan from anyone else atp

Later JJD said that he would target one of the reflexive RBs to get into their hood just to make us angry

I said repeatedly that JJD's justification (which is in the quoted post) for getting into the hood seemed bad and I didn't understand how it would benefit town

It seemed scummy because if JJD got into the hood, he would be immune to invest and vig shots so there's more scum motivation than town motivation to get into the reflexive RB hood imo

Yes I thought him submitting a night action was bad so I repeatedly tried to get him to not do it. I spent a lot of time trying to engage him, but you wouldn't have guessed in his version of events.

In post 2137, Marquis wrote:I really don't think Bingle is scum anymore.

I'd very much like to lunch o-guy, pls.
VOTE: ojrvz

In post 2156, Marquis wrote:

In post 2150, Bingle wrote:

In post 2146, PenguinPower wrote:Marquis is scum. Or just really bad.

Nah. That list is p solid. pops is scum, Flavor deserves to be town and I don't think Chandra deserves to be in the list, but otherwise it's .

I'm not very comfortable calling Flavor town, I'm starting to get the sense their righteous conviction is within their scumrange. Also the vig crossclaim with the other one presumably flipping exactly what he claimed :/