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Like, there's only so much town can do when only half the playerlist seems to be here and actively willing to push people as mafia. This game feels immensely lethargic. There aren't really competing wagons ever and I think it's fair to say that me, Alex and Datisi aren't really town-leader types of players. Gamma and Marci are here but I have no idea what they're doing. I'm finding it difficult to sort people in this environment.

Maybe there's a part of the game that could be reread to help? I don't know.

Yeah sorry, I think we're kind of spinning our wheels here.
I'm kind of starting to think Gamma's probs town. Or at least more likely to be town than others. I don't think scum!Gamma comes after you and Datisi, although maybe scum Gamma wants to avoid the low hanging fruit, idk. That's the thing, every time I find a reason to town read someone, I can then think of why they might also be scum for it.

There's just nothing happening. I don't know why Marci is acting the way she is about Gamma, it just seems anti-town. Part of me wants to launch her or JF.

In post 2206, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Once I catch up Ima right everyone's name and what I gut read/remember them doing in this game to get my thoughts straight. You should donthe same! I don't trust my POE from yesterday

Like this is 2 days old and still nothing. JF has a pattern of coming in, saying he'll do stuff soon and then disappearing. Is this lazy town or is this blatant active lurking and prod dodging? Like aside from his claim and sharing his results there's been no content here today.

Freedom's at least sharing reads but it still feels like bare minimum.

I agree with you. I think what Freedom is doing is like marginally scummier because he seems to be like, making some sort of effort to post and skate by without doing anything to help town win. But obviously I can't townread Johnny here either.

I guess Shoshin is working in Freedom's favour though? If it weren't for that I would be a lot more sure this is the right elimination today. I guess I just feel stuck right now. Maybe I should stop posting for a bit until Johnny comes back or Freedom does something or marci starts like, making a push on Datisi or whoever she actually does scumread.

Yeah, honestly if Freedom had been here all game long and Shoshin wasn't a thing it'd be really hard to TR there at all.

In post 2351, Alexcellent wrote:Like this is 2 days old and still nothing. JF has a pattern of coming in, saying he'll do stuff soon and then disappearing. Is this lazy town or is this blatant active lurking and prod dodging? Like aside from his claim and sharing his results there's been no content here today.

i know this is a scum pattern for some and a lazy pattern for others. depending how dead i am after work, i might try to do some Research(tm). but i'm also not sure if seeing him doing that as both alignments would make me not wanna kill him anymore.

In post 2350, Ausuka wrote:Like, there's only so much town can do when only half the playerlist seems to be here and actively willing to push people as mafia. This game feels immensely lethargic. There aren't really competing wagons ever and I think it's fair to say that me, Alex and Datisi aren't really town-leader types of players. Gamma and Marci are here but I have no idea what they're doing. I'm finding it difficult to sort people in this environment.

Maybe there's a part of the game that could be reread to help? I don't know.

That's a good idea.
I could also do an ISO dive when I'm less busy.

VOTE: marci
I have little confidence she’s scum but she’s not really coming off town anymore and if she’s town I want that known in 6p.

In post 2357, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: marci
I have little confidence she’s scum but she’s not really coming off town anymore and if she’s town I want that known in 6p.

I get this, but do you have higher confidence in someone else being scum?

listen i cant explain it but datisi is scum

Could you at least quote the posts that make you feel that way?

In post 2359, marcistar wrote:listen i cant explain it but datisi is scum

Can you try though?

In post 2358, Alexcellent wrote:

In post 2357, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: marci
I have little confidence she’s scum but she’s not really coming off town anymore and if she’s town I want that known in 6p.

I get this, but do you have higher confidence in someone else being scum?

Not really
I have ideas in mind but without being certain about marci’s alignment I can’t really make anything tangible

does marci/johnny make any sense

i am not 100% on freedom being scum bc i know that he knows how to post as scum, even if the situation is bad

so i'm not sure if i buy that he's avoiding the game bc he doesn't know what to post

idk this game is really difficult with absolutely nobody playing

I believe Johnny/Marci works

In post 898, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I follow Aussie's logic with Marci, but Alex jumping there as well makes me nervous, I'm still more confident we get a red flip there

Johnny agreeable about Marci but wants me dead instead

In post 1425, JohnnyFarrar wrote:

In post 1324, Datisi wrote:i also wouldn't cry if we yeet marci instead

I don't love this as an alternative, either.

Now against Marci launch

In post 1428, JohnnyFarrar wrote:

In post 1389, marcistar wrote:i think its mostly hard cuz ppl have this like golden trio of suspects
im in the golden trio
so i know the golden trio isnt it
but i dont know where exactly everyones clowning

if yall want to lim me go ahead, since corwind claimed jailkeep i would be the better lim anyways.
but that doesnt change what im saying
yall are wrong somewhere.

Yeah actually Marci's town here

In post 1431, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Alright caught up. More inclined to vote Corwin than Marci here, but would still rather Alex.

I don't think we should end day until we hear back from Scamper and Penguin tho

Hopping in the shower now, ask me questions if you want

Think the first line ^ is pretty bad.

In post 1583, marcistar wrote:i think johnnys town

Marci has been repeatedly asked about this town read but never explained it.

Johnny/Marci is very possible IMO

It is one of many possibilities

I don't know rh9 meta that well tbf but from what I've seen I definitely feel like he is capable of more as town? Idk.

In post 1887, JohnnyFarrar wrote:

In post 1764, Crescent wrote:I have a pretty solid towncore right now

Honestly really feeling this. Std, Freedom, Crez, Scamper and Ausuka win this game for us 100% it's why this game has been on the back burner.

This is the only thing that gives me pause

I feel like Johnny maybe wants to do more than this if his partner is exactly Marcistar? Std shooting crescent ended up being equivalent to a miselimination there in practice but I don't think scum Johnny could have anticipated this and I think Johnny here is sort of backing himself into a corner in that scenario. I don't think crescent would ever have been eliminated normally and it would've been difficult to pivot because Crescent is active and 100% would have given him shit.

In post 2363, Datisi wrote:idk this game is really difficult with absolutely nobody playing

I'm playing

There's also this

In post 670, marcistar wrote:

In post 644, Alexcellent wrote:Probably leaning towards Corwin or Johnny today

im fine with both these options but i prefer corwin slightly

This was whilst she was voting Datisi but it was also before Corwin started openly scumming it up so I guess it's possible scum!Marci just viewed Corwin as a potential mislim at the time and not necessarily the traitor?

I don't know though. Game is hard.

P-edit: ugh... yeah that's a point there

Happy scumday btw!

Honestly the traitor thing is kind of difficult to work around with associatives.

I want to say scum probably never realised he was the traitor, except maybe after the jailkeeper claim? Because townies play scummy all the time. I'm sure they were aware of the possibility but I'm not sure how you would play around it as scum? If that makes any sense, I know I can be sort of rambly so please let me know if I ever need to clarify.

Oh, it's not my scumday in my timezone but thank you!

Yeah I've been trying to put myself into scum shoes. I think personally I'd still just play the game like I normally would and rely on the traitor to not get themselves limmed, then at night maybe look for crumbs. But I think scum are still going to spend the day looking for viable mislims.

In post 1453, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I'm clean now

In post 1447, Freedom wrote:

In post 1409, Alexcellent wrote:

In post 1407, marcistar wrote:

In post 1405, Alexcellent wrote:If there are 4 neighbours, an ascetic Miller and whatever Bella is, does a JK really fit here?

i mean, any of the neighbours could be scum

True, actually I forgot Corwin’s a neighbour

“Town Neighbour Jailkeeper”

Does this sound like a thing?

It's probable. There's no reason why a Town JK Neighbor couldn't exist.
However, this wouldn't match up with Ausuka and Bella. There would be too many Town PRs and suggest that Mafia has some fancy PRs too.

Don't love this

could this be distancing??