- Where has your CES=scummy scum scum read gone to?
Vote: Shadow
It's disappeared. But for good reason. But it's gone.
Seems pretty clear to me?
If MafiaSSK tracked you to another player, and that player did not die, he could easily assume cop, doc, etc. For that reason, he would not reveal nor would he want to lynch you.
If he tracked you and you went nowhere, that, too is inconclusive, as it would mean only that you were either a VT/Goon or non-actioning PR.
If he got no result, I don't see why he would remove his scum read.
If he got a result, I could see him giving you the benefit of the PR doubt and removing his scumread.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:10 am
by ActionDan
Peregrine what we're your results again? And shos could you detail your results as well?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:29 am
by PeregrineV
In post 2380, ActionDan wrote:Peregrine what we're your results again? And shos could you detail your results as well?
N1: ActionDan targeted no one
N2: JacobSavage targeted MafiaSSK
N3: shos targeted Albert
N4: Tierce targeted Albert
N5: Elscouta targeted no one
N6: CES targeted no one
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:31 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
If you track someone and get a result, that might give you pause about lynching them (unless you really think the target implicates that they're a certain PR), but it shouldn't make you think they were town - there is a higher percentage of scum with actions than town with actions in most games. I mean, I got scum lynched in Author Mafia based on a Tracker result on a Night without a kill.
It's definitely a bit much to think I'm town based on a Tracker innocent but it is an attitude that I know people have and that's what the crumb says.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:34 am
by Cogito Ergo Sum
What's your role name by the bye, ActionDan?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:46 am
by shos
Nkbody targetted PV last night. Earlier nights i waa blocked. N1 tierce was targetted by noone, and n2 AbR was jailkept.
That crumb is interesting. To compare with PVs results, it really works that des/spy is sxum. Im gonna investigate further.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:01 am
by ActionDan
Enerdhil
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:03 am
by ActionDan
In post 2384, shos wrote:Nkbody targetted PV last night. Earlier nights i waa blocked. N1 tierce was targetted by noone, and n2 AbR was jailkept.
That crumb is interesting. To compare with PVs results, it really works that des/spy is sxum. Im gonna investigate further.
do you mean N3? what was your N2 result?
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:15 am
by PeregrineV
In post 2382, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:If you track someone and get a result, that might give you pause about lynching them (unless you really think the target implicates that they're a certain PR), but it shouldn't make you think they were town - there is a higher percentage of scum with actions than town with actions in most games. I mean, I got scum lynched in Author Mafia based on a Tracker result on a Night without a kill.
It's definitely a bit much to think I'm town based on a Tracker innocent but it is an attitude that I know people have and that's what the crumb says.
Nobody wants to be the town PR that outs themselves and the the town cop/doc/whatever unnecessarily. And assuming it's a scum PR can lead to outting the town cop/doc/whatever unnecessarily.
Being as I tracked, if shos had lied about ABR when he claimed, I'd probably have followed him the next night to see why he lied.
When Jacob was tracked to MafiaSSK n2, I thought it odd since I don't recall Jacob calling SSK town, but SSK didn't die, so moving on. When SSK died the next night and flipped tracker, was 70% sure Jacob was scum, but since he was already "outted" as a bodyguard, his claim made it 100%.
So, net result, SSK attitude is consistent with backing off a possible town PR.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:04 pm
by Cogito Ergo Sum
If he was trying to do that, there are tons of things he could've said - just say you're shelving it for now or have bigger fish to fry or want to see how certain things develop first; he could've also just not responded. You're ignoring the actual content of the crumb in favour of trying to make it a clean fit (which you can't actually do).
None of this should matter overly much anyway; give me my Desperadolynch and the game should be over. He's not even really trying at this point; just half-heartedly pushing ActionDan, not even addressing the ActionDan track result.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:33 am
by ActionDan
VOTE: despardo
Yawn. I hope that's gg.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:34 am
by ActionDan
Shos needs to clarify his results though
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:09 am
by shos
did you just hammer and go 'but'?
N1 nobody targetted Tierce.
N2 ABR was only jailkept.
N3 ABR was only jailkept <<< this is what I forgot, AD is right. I wonder though if he is the JK so he knows that, or, if he is town that remembered correctly
N4 blocked
N5 blocked
N6 nobody targetted PV.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:55 pm
by Plum
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:09 pm
by Plum
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:10 pm
by Plum
Desperado
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Penlod
,
House of the Pillar
,
House of the Tower of Snow
,
Secret Way Conspiracy Jailkeeper
Lynched Day 7
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:17 pm
by Plum
shos
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Hendor, Gondolin Voyeur
Survived and Won
ActionDan
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Enerdhil
,
Gondolin Vanilla
Survived and Won
SpyreX
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Duilin
,
House of the Swallow
,
Gondolin Vanilla
Survived and Won
Cogito Ergo Sum
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Eärendil, Gondolin Vanilla
Survived and Won
Elscouta
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Rog
,
House of the Hammer of Wrath
,
Gondolin Vanilla
Survived and Won
PeregrineV
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Salgant
,
House of the Harp
,
Gondolin Tracker
Survived and Won
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:26 pm
by chamber
Gj guys.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:18 pm
by Aegor
Yay! I assume dead town win too?
It is too bad I did not get to use my awesome role.
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:20 pm
by Plum
Of course, of course, Town all win . Mafia all lose . Fuller post with design ethos and thoughts to come soon.
Because of this vote, we were unable to lynch sirdanilot on Day 2.
Which allowed Majiffy to crumb his Leap of Faith into my face.
Which was the start of the scumteam's folding like a cheap house of cards.
Therefore everything is Jacob's fault. JACOB. >:C
We just wanted to save you all! Fine, burn for all we care! Have your flaming house with the psychokid!