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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:02 am
by Jingle
Because I can.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:05 am
by RadiantCowbells
i have no idea how i would be reading who if i didn't already know he was town. i've never played mafia with him before, we know each other from D&D.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:07 am
by Jingle

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:08 am
by Jingle
What are your thoughts on setup symmetry?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
is your actual question do I think that titus / popsofctown are more likely to be scum than rand because they have the same role as who?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:12 am
by nomnomnom
@Jingle help me out here, what do you see buddy? I'm a bit confused, there could be multiple things happening here.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:13 am
by RadiantCowbells
i think that they are more likely to be town than rand because I think that if xyzzy put two of this role in as town and scum then xyzzy wouldn't have made the hydra recruitments public
i think that scum probably have a version of the same role but one that doesn't actually publicize the fact that they recruited someone.

but given that i still haven't read the game and will continue to not do so until Mastina clarifies their role who knows!

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:15 am
by mastina
In post 2124, RadiantCowbells wrote:are you claiming a guilty result on ELA
Maybe?
I'm claiming that I tried to masonize EeveeLution Army last night, and that I don't have a PT with EeveeLution Army in spite of having submitted that as my night action N1.

There's any number of reasons why it wouldn't be a guilty; there's only one world where it could be one.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:16 am
by nomnomnom
In post 2382, mastina wrote:
In post 2124, RadiantCowbells wrote:are you claiming a guilty result on ELA
Maybe?
I'm claiming that I tried to masonize EeveeLution Army last night, and that I don't have a PT with EeveeLution Army in spite of having submitted that as my night action N1.

There's any number of reasons why it wouldn't be a guilty; there's only one world where it could be one.
are you masonizer the role or a variation of masonizer?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:16 am
by nomnomnom
as in a makeshift masonizer*

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:17 am
by Jingle
In post 2379, RadiantCowbells wrote:is your actual question do I think that titus / popsofctown are more likely to be scum than rand because they have the same role as who?
Not really, no. Just wondering if you had insights that might help my thought processes and if you thought the same things setup wise as I do, given that we have very similar amounts of setup information atm.

@nom, I've got thoughts, but am not up to sharing them just yet.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:18 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2382, mastina wrote:
In post 2124, RadiantCowbells wrote:are you claiming a guilty result on ELA
Maybe?
I'm claiming that I tried to masonize EeveeLution Army last night, and that I don't have a PT with EeveeLution Army in spite of having submitted that as my night action N1.

There's any number of reasons why it wouldn't be a guilty; there's only one world where it could be one.
so you're claiming that either ELA is scum or you were prevented from acting on them somehow?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:19 am
by Jingle
In post 2385, Jingle wrote:Not really, no. Just wondering if you had insights that might help my thought processes and if you thought the same things setup wise as I do, given that we have very similar amounts of setup information atm.
mastina, if you get a chance I'd like to hear your overall setup thoughts as well. I
think
we might be able to shenanigans this game.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:22 am
by nomnomnom
A bit unrelated but I think I'm just going to put Lavender in the townbin, that response to me pushing them felt pretty townie even though I really don't like the self-centeredness nature of their posts.

Pine/Who/Ausuka is where I'm looking atm.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:23 am
by Nancy Drew 39

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:25 am
by nomnomnom
We're looking at a scumteam that decided to roleblock me or protect Who. It's more likely that I was roleblocked. So logically speaking a scumteam would only block me in the case Pine is scum because I very clearly said that it's where I would shoot.

So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:26 am
by nomnomnom
I just want external thoughts. I need just backs and forths so I can better situate my thoughts on this. I really think scums were expecting me to shoot pine for that hammer so they roleblocked me. 100% obliged.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:26 am
by Jingle
RC/pops

Were you offered the chance to turn down the recruitment? If so, were you told your prospective role before or after this chance was offered?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:27 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 2379, RadiantCowbells wrote:is your actual question do I think that titus / popsofctown are more likely to be scum than rand because they have the same role as who?
They’re were triple of each role in ND, so two of the same is probably NAI. So unless someone CCs a third, you probably shouldn’t read anything into that in an Xyzzy game.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:28 am
by nomnomnom
Plus Pine directly implied alongside who that I was a "leashed SK" that had to be lynched at first occasion. That insta-vote at the beginning of the day is a bit odd as well.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:28 am
by Jingle
In post 2390, nomnomnom wrote:So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.
Wrong. From a town you PoV there is a more sure suspect.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:29 am
by RadiantCowbells
sorry i just took a second to reread the end of day: you never indicated any intentions of shooting who so I'm not sure why you think we'd either be protected or roleblock you if we were scum
RC/pops

Were you offered the chance to turn down the recruitment? If so, were you told your prospective role before or after this chance was offered?
i was not but i was also told that i was free to never post in the game again if i so desired.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:29 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 2395, Jingle wrote:
In post 2390, nomnomnom wrote:So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.
Wrong. From a town you PoV there is a more sure suspect.
jingle if you're going to push my slot as higher equity scum I'm going to take it as a scumclaim.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:29 am
by mastina
In post 2146, popsofctown wrote:She hasn't clarified yet, masonizer can be implemented in a couple different ways. In particular, it can be done as, if your target is scum, you die, which confirm that roleblocked happen.
If it's the type of masonizer that's, if your target is scum, nothing happens, same as if you were roleblocked, we should probably not speculate on whether a roleblock happened and just speedlynch, sure.
Yeah I need to ask that question. Will let you know when I have an answer.

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:31 am
by nomnomnom
In post 2395, Jingle wrote:
In post 2390, nomnomnom wrote:So I think Pine is the most logical person to be scum here. But yeah.
Wrong. From a town you PoV there is a more sure suspect.
If it isn't Who I don't really see who you're implying.