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Why the momentum is shifting away from ABR's slot lynch?

unwnd propose another team: I accept anything with beeboy and you on it.

In post 2324, Titus wrote:

In post 2323, midwaybear wrote:bruh she quoted unwnd
are you reading?

+1 and the yuck was at unwnd.

+2. Seriously, TSE.

In post 2327, unwnd wrote:they were basically going to run the same quiz team?

That was being thrown around and I don't particularly care whether I'm on the Quiz Team or not. However, you put up a team of yourself (which I think is fine), TSE (who's not paying attention and jumping at shadows), ND (who's not around all that much), and Pink (who I'm ok with given his action with the chain yesterday, I still need to read him in ISO). If I only approve of 50% of the team, then that's a deny for me.

In post 2331, Titus wrote:

In post 2330, unwnd wrote:I think she was being sarcastic, which begs the question what her problem with my post was

I wasn't being sarcastic. Raya/Farside/Starbuck reads like an all town block scum are desperate to shade.

Given your predecessor, I appreciate this.

In post 2332, midwaybear wrote:I'll townblock with TSE/unwnd/beeboy

Yeah, no. You and TSE aren't making much sense currently and I think you should stay away from beeboy and unwnd.

In post 2354, Pink Ball wrote:Dude can we just lynch TSE? I don't give a flying fuck

I'm growing less and less confident in him especially when he doesn't seem to understand basics that we discussed all of yesterday.

In post 2356, farside22 wrote:We could go with lynching spring.
I'd go 1v1 with that.

I'm not against this at all. She has been absolutely silent. Notice how the thread has been back on track while she has been absent.

In post 2359, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:ARE PEOPLE NOT FUCKIN READING!?!?

In post 2359, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Midway is dead and flips when I become Chain Leader.
When I become Chain Leader, Farside dies because they are scum.

Anyone who gives you chain leader is out of their frakking minds.

In post 2362, farside22 wrote:Like my dream right now is to see Spring/TSE bottom 2 and have mid chose between those 2.
Either way I see a scum flip with either those 2, while others apparently have blinders on.

I wouldn't be mad about this. I'm okay with midway down there, too.

In post 2367, midwaybear wrote:I'm just annoyed that everyone is assuming that I'm dying today.

Welcome to how I've been feeling. I didn't feel safe at all until I got the chain.

In post 2368, farside22 wrote:But hey thanks for reminding me why i left MS for the time I did. You have brought back many, many unpleasant memories for me.

To be real, this is why I got so upset during yesterday with you and ABR. I didn't expect to come back to that, ya know?

In post 2375, springlullaby wrote:unwnd propose another team: I accept anything with beeboy and you on it.

If you were pro-town, you wouldn't propose a candidate who can autofail quizzes.

On review the JOAT might contain a role blocker.
Spring isn't the only one to suggest I be on the team so I won't fault her.

But I can only think of strongman, frame and roleblocker for scum JOAT powers.

I know she isn't, but as chain leader yesterday, it boggles me that she's suggesting it.

The main counter argument is it is just counter productive to use unwnds role on me when he can use it on anyone.
I don't think anyone has brought up roleblocking JOAT just yet.

Which is yet another reason its a bad idea.

I guess before I was more neutral/didn't care.

Now I actually just think I am a liability to keep on the quiz team even with unwnd.

I don't like that we have to leave you off either. I'm worried about scum tampering on top of hoping someone doesn't get blocked for trying to help you pass and then it autofails due to your NU anyways.

There's just too many variables.

I feel pretty strongly that TSE is wrong town. His methods aren't working because the meta has shifted more towards team building, townblocking and compromise. I still tunnel from time to time, but my best games are where I am more hands off and building coalitions.

That being said, I am ok with a TSE lynch for the health of town. I just have no illusions as to what I was doing.

In post 571, springlullaby wrote:

In post 570, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?

I dont give a single fuck about that! My scumhunting is so good i need a handicap!

Ok, you are scum.

In post 590, springlullaby wrote:

In post 580, Albert B. Rampage wrote:we need to give the fucking team seats to the TOWNIEST players aka the least likely to be lynched. Whats so difficult to understand?

Yeah, ok, ABR needs to be lynched. He doesn't make that many mistakes as town.

In post 670, springlullaby wrote:1) I am not stalling the chain. I made clear I want the quiz team sorted first.
2) If my way is pro-town than you should approve of it.
3) It doesn't matter who goes on the quiz team as it serves as PoE. What isn't clear about that.

Abr, you are way less stereotypical as town.

In post 677, springlullaby wrote:Ok, that better be.

Vote ABR

This is 70 levels of wtf

My theory, shall it be accepted, is that spring is scum. ABR was loud, vocal, and wrong. Scum wanted him alive and had Spring do it because they feared that ABR would be left out due to toxicity, thus losing a townbeard.

Let's see who ABR suspected.

In post 561, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 558, beeboy wrote:Dunnstral
Cakez
Pinkball
Raya
TSE

that was my team.
TSE is a stubborn guy but that doesn't change his role card.

This is a team I will approve.

I don't care if I have to deny 3 times, if you put forward a dealbreaker team then it's no deal and no quiz tonight.

There should be at least one scum in here, if my theory holds. My eyes jump to Dunn and SirCakez.

In post 589, Albert B. Rampage wrote:heres a good group:
Farside
Lully
Me
Cakez

Beeboy

NDMath 598

Boom.

Fos Lully and Cakez

In post 618, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 615, springlullaby wrote:

In post 609, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So why the fuck should we approve a list of players we want to lynch?

So you have no other scum lead than starbuck?

Unwnd
Starbuck

My main scumreads right now.

Unwnd and Starbuck should be town.

In post 679, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Alright guys, I'm in charge of the chain now. Give me 24h to make my decision and I will pass it to the towniest players while spring lets beeboy pick a better quiz team.

This type of attitude is toxic as fuck. I can't see how Spring nominates someone in active rebellion against him as his first choice to save.

I know it's nontraditional VCA (and I had to get context) but I want Spring lynched.

spring thought ABR softed a PR for some reason
also, cakez flipped town.

In post 2390, midwaybear wrote:spring thought ABR softed a PR for some reason
also, cakez flipped town.

Where did Spring indicate that?

My analysis was blind as to the flip. I think Lully and Dunn are both scum then. The last one will be harder to find but gtmh it's beeboy.

BEEBOY? Why?
also here

In post 682, springlullaby wrote:Just to be clear, I'm supposing that was a softclaim of somekind ABR.
No way out of it otherwise.

In post 2392, midwaybear wrote:BEEBOY? Why?
also here

In post 682, springlullaby wrote:Just to be clear, I'm supposing that was a softclaim of somekind ABR.
No way out of it otherwise.

Going the opposite of ABR's reads. Beeboy could have just been hard townreading scum. His role effectively functions as a miller claim.

I'm going to ISO ABR to see if ABR did softclaim something.

In post 2388, Titus wrote:

In post 589, Albert B. Rampage wrote:heres a good group:
Farside
Lully
Me
Cakez

Beeboy

NDMath 598

Boom.

Fos Lully and Cakez

In post 618, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 615, springlullaby wrote:

In post 609, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So why the fuck should we approve a list of players we want to lynch?

So you have no other scum lead than starbuck?

Unwnd
Starbuck

My main scumreads right now.

Unwnd and Starbuck should be town.

Cakez flipped town.
Spring said she thought Abr had some day cop ability, which i rhought sounded like crap. And theres pages of spring arguing for the sake of arguing.

@sb: i said from the start i didn't want to fight with you because this was your first game back and just thought you'd be more excited to play.
The toxicty of tse is way above that. This is day 2 of a game reading it. And ive told him repeatedly i would not engage with his attitude as i find it more a scum tactic. I wouldn't compare my attitude to his.

In post 670, springlullaby wrote:1) I am not stalling the chain. I made clear I want the quiz team sorted first.
2) If my way is pro-town than you should approve of it.
3) It doesn't matter who goes on the quiz team as it serves as PoE. What isn't clear about that.

Abr, you are way less stereotypical as town.

In post 672, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Youre scum Starbuck
Youre getting lynched one way or another
If youre on the quiz team we gonna fail this fucking quiz and ill make sure of it because in return we will see your scum head roll

PASS THE CHAIN SPRING

In post 675, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 673, springlullaby wrote:Who is the tyrant now.

How do I put this...okay...

Starbuck is Marie Antoinette... you are like her servant that helps her put on those phat ass gowns with the feathers... and we, the people of France, are gonna divide her body in two at the neck.

We're gonna be a republic now. The era of the royalty is finished.

PASS THE CHAIN SPRING

In post 677, springlullaby wrote:Ok, that better be.

Vote ABR

Where the hell is a softclaim here?

In post 668, Albert B. Rampage wrote:starbuck is scum i guarantee it. Spring is on a massive power trip refusing to PASS THE CHAIN.

In post 672, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Youre scum Starbuck
Youre getting lynched one way or another
If youre on the quiz team we gonna fail this fucking quiz and ill make sure of it because in return we will see your scum head roll

PASS THE CHAIN SPRING

In post 675, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 673, springlullaby wrote:Who is the tyrant now.

How do I put this...okay...

Starbuck is Marie Antoinette... you are like her servant that helps her put on those phat ass gowns with the feathers... and we, the people of France, are gonna divide her body in two at the neck.

We're gonna be a republic now. The era of the royalty is finished.

PASS THE CHAIN SPRING

In post 571, springlullaby wrote:

In post 570, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?

I dont give a single fuck about that! My scumhunting is so good i need a handicap!

Ok, you are scum.

In post 590, springlullaby wrote:

In post 580, Albert B. Rampage wrote:we need to give the fucking team seats to the TOWNIEST players aka the least likely to be lynched. Whats so difficult to understand?

Yeah, ok, ABR needs to be lynched. He doesn't make that many mistakes as town.

In post 606, springlullaby wrote:

In post 585, Albert B. Rampage wrote:

In post 582, beeboy wrote:I dont think the team gets lynch immunity its only the team leader and the chain leader.

If we lynch them the quiz automatically fails.

Once we agree on the team, it means we don't lynch them. Anyone making this happen is scum.

You think very strangely.

In post 680, springlullaby wrote:No, I'm putting up a quizz team without starbuck on it. You have zero reason to refuse.

In post 682, springlullaby wrote:Just to be clear, I'm supposing that was a softclaim of somekind ABR.
No way out of it otherwise.

Don't know if this will help bur it was spring that started to scum read abr the said she thought the post were abr guarentee star as scum that spring took as a soft claim.
Abr also said that beeboy was confirmed town prior to this so im not sure why spring reaches that conclusion at all.

In post 2389, Titus wrote:This type of attitude is toxic as fuck. I can't see how Spring nominates someone in active rebellion against him as his first choice to save.

I think it's pretty clear I revoke any hypothetical day cop on Starbuck. I also think interpreting ABR's confidence as a day cop is a stretch given ABR was that confident about everything.

Was there anything weird about the pass from midway to Dunn?