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[DkKoba]

regardless i dont wanna focus on mechs

osuka who do u sr

[osuka]

like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.

So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?

they were rolestopped

Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but

VFP

who didn't claim anything??

roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles

Oh, ok.... then we can have a rolestopper by

DkKoba

's logic, but not a roleblocker, right?
If we have only 1 mafia doc here, then is it possible to have both roleblocker and rolestopper?

there can be a roleblocker too - who targeted me.

Then, why didn't you die??

@datisi

hypothetically if a weak vig were to target a mafia player and the vig was roleblocked, does the weak vig die?

this one is a yes

i think thats wrong, if a weak vig gets roleblocked and targets mafia i wouldnt imagine vig dies

[osuka]

I think tracker is scum considering they didnt die

scum tracker????

i forgot who the tracker claim was at this point

robert iirc?

[Salsabil Faria]

wait i misread - that is a NO - weak modifier is affected by roleblocks. if you dont end up visiting your target you wont die.

Can you elaborate more? I don't understand.

[osuka]

who do u scumread rn osuka?

vfp but i wanna go back to that vfp-andante interaction before i vote here because vfp did look like they done got caught, but andante flipped seemingly out of nowhere and i thought that was really weird

[DkKoba]

ok so - if a weak modified role is roleblocked, it cannot die from visiting scum because it does not perform the visit.

[osuka]

So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles

this is a dumb take

[Asteria]

What is the case on vfp again? @anybody who scumreads them

[Salsabil Faria]

why are you fucking assuming theres only 1 scum doc where does it say that

2 mafia docs against 1 weak town vig also don't make sense, unless the mod is partial towards the mafia team!

oh im sorry is neapolitan and gs also not good for you either

What??? They are not a killer roles! Mafia has a doc because the town has a killer role (weak vig = you)

[Asteria]

So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles

this is a dumb take

What's the purpose? Why have 2 protections if you only ever have the risk of 1 weak vig

[osuka]

regardless i dont wanna focus on mechs

osuka who do u sr

vfp is at the top of my list but as i said i wanna go back to andante as well. i would start to look at salsa today, too, because that slot seems to be flying pretty low on everyone's radar and it doesnt look like anyone actually took an iso dive there

[Andante]

I shot at vfb

so you're claiming there's a roleblocker. lovely.

??????????

there is literally a mod confirmed mafia doctor in this setup

yeah, but koba claimed weak, meaning koba would be dead if vfp was simply just the save

[osuka]

So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles

this is a dumb take

What's the purpose? Why have 2 protections if you only ever have the risk of 1 weak vig

did you forget this is a datisi setup

[osuka]

I shot at vfb

so you're claiming there's a roleblocker. lovely.

??????????

there is literally a mod confirmed mafia doctor in this setup

yeah, but koba claimed weak, meaning koba would be dead if vfp was simply just the save

yeah youre right and im an idiot, i never realized they claimed weak vig

so mafia roleblocker or rolestopper?

[DkKoba]

knowing datisi the balance would be more leaning scumsided from him, which is confirmed fmpov.

[VFP]

exactly

Wouldn't it be better to let you die and just heal me?
I have seen 2 scum docs before, but I don't see that here regardless sin ce I'm pretty sure town only had a cop and vig in that game too.
Also no idea if it was under normal or not. Probably not as that's hard to pass as a normal.

[VFP]

fuck i completely missed that

So did I.

[Andante]

so you all wanna call Koba fake vig/ assume VFP was rolestopped....

rolestopper on VFP makes about 0 sense.


Guys, lets consider Asteria for a second. D1 had 0 pr tells, panic claimed a gunned role here once I said they have a gun. I do not like Asteria's claim, and I also feel like VFP/Salsa are scum together, but I'll let yall do you

[Asteria]

So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles

this is a dumb take

What's the purpose? Why have 2 protections if you only ever have the risk of 1 weak vig

did you forget this is a datisi setup

Right. Well either way I guess there's no point speculating what can't be solved as is

[Andante]

2 scum docs would mean, Koba will likely only be able to shoot town :/

[Andante]

well what's the plan here? leave pr claims alone again? even though Asteria is basically confirmed scum?

[Salsabil Faria]

mafia doc + mafia rolestopper + mafia rb sounds a bit too stacked to me

also i would imagine a mafia rolestopper on vfp would stop weak vig from dying, since the action never happens? is that right or am i wrong?

Most probably right (I'm not the right person to answer this question though). If

DkKoba

are a town weak vig, mafia has a doctor + a rolestopper + ?.
What do you think about

VFP

atp?

VFP

's being town makes sense in that scenario, or they being scum?

[VFP]

What is the case on vfp again? @anybody who scumreads them

Because I called Dragon town.

[Andante]

mafia doc + mafia rolestopper + mafia rb sounds a bit too stacked to me

also i would imagine a mafia rolestopper on vfp would stop weak vig from dying, since the action never happens? is that right or am i wrong?

Most probably right (I'm not the right person to answer this question though). If

DkKoba

are a town weak vig, mafia has a doctor + a rolestopper + ?.
What do you think about

VFP

atp?

VFP

's being town makes sense in that scenario, or they being scum?

vfp is scum

maf didn't realize koba would've died if they didn't roleblock them

[InsidiousLemons]

so you all wanna call Koba fake vig/ assume VFP was rolestopped....

rolestopper on VFP makes about 0 sense.

why does this make no sense to you? it's one of the only ways VFP and koba could have both lived