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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:56 pm
by DkKoba
regardless i dont wanna focus on mechs

osuka who do u sr

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:57 pm
by osuka
In post 2350, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2339, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2333, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2326, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 2323, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2311, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2309, Asteria wrote:
In post 2305, DkKoba wrote:like theyre fully back to null if im being honest but i did scumread them going into the night and their reaction feels genuine.
So if vfp is scum what do you think happened?
they were rolestopped
Why the mafia roleblocker didn't roleblock the claim vig (you) but
VFP
who didn't claim anything??
roleblocker blocks a role from taking an action, rolestopper blocks a person from having a night action taken on them. they're 2 different roles
Oh, ok.... then we can have a rolestopper by
DkKoba
's logic, but not a roleblocker, right?
If we have only 1 mafia doc here, then is it possible to have both roleblocker and rolestopper?
there can be a roleblocker too - who targeted me.
Then, why didn't you die??
In post 2285, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2283, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@datisi

hypothetically if a weak vig were to target a mafia player and the vig was roleblocked, does the weak vig die?
this one is a yes
i think thats wrong, if a weak vig gets roleblocked and targets mafia i wouldnt imagine vig dies

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:57 pm
by osuka
In post 2359, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2358, osuka wrote:
In post 2237, DkKoba wrote:I think tracker is scum considering they didnt die
scum tracker????
i forgot who the tracker claim was at this point
robert iirc?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:57 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2355, DkKoba wrote: wait i misread - that is a NO - weak modifier is affected by roleblocks. if you dont end up visiting your target you wont die.
Can you elaborate more? I don't understand.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:58 pm
by osuka
In post 2361, DkKoba wrote:who do u scumread rn osuka?
vfp but i wanna go back to that vfp-andante interaction before i vote here because vfp did look like they done got caught, but andante flipped seemingly out of nowhere and i thought that was really weird

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:58 pm
by DkKoba
ok so - if a weak modified role is roleblocked, it cannot die from visiting scum because it does not perform the visit.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm
by osuka
In post 2367, Asteria wrote:So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles
this is a dumb take

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm
by Asteria
What is the case on vfp again? @anybody who scumreads them

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:59 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2356, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2354, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2343, DkKoba wrote:why are you fucking assuming theres only 1 scum doc where does it say that
2 mafia docs against 1 weak town vig also don't make sense, unless the mod is partial towards the mafia team!
oh im sorry is neapolitan and gs also not good for you either
What??? They are not a killer roles! Mafia has a doc because the town has a killer role (weak vig = you) :? :?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:00 pm
by Asteria
In post 2381, osuka wrote:
In post 2367, Asteria wrote:So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles
this is a dumb take
What's the purpose? Why have 2 protections if you only ever have the risk of 1 weak vig

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:00 pm
by osuka
In post 2375, DkKoba wrote:regardless i dont wanna focus on mechs

osuka who do u sr
vfp is at the top of my list but as i said i wanna go back to andante as well. i would start to look at salsa today, too, because that slot seems to be flying pretty low on everyone's radar and it doesnt look like anyone actually took an iso dive there

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:00 pm
by Andante
In post 2337, osuka wrote:
In post 2192, Andante wrote:
In post 2186, DkKoba wrote:I shot at vfb

so you're claiming there's a roleblocker. lovely.
??????????

there is literally a mod confirmed mafia doctor in this setup

yeah, but koba claimed weak, meaning koba would be dead if vfp was simply just the save

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:01 pm
by osuka
In post 2384, Asteria wrote:
In post 2381, osuka wrote:
In post 2367, Asteria wrote:So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles
this is a dumb take
What's the purpose? Why have 2 protections if you only ever have the risk of 1 weak vig
did you forget this is a datisi setup

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:01 pm
by osuka
In post 2386, Andante wrote:
In post 2337, osuka wrote:
In post 2192, Andante wrote:
In post 2186, DkKoba wrote:I shot at vfb

so you're claiming there's a roleblocker. lovely.
??????????

there is literally a mod confirmed mafia doctor in this setup

yeah, but koba claimed weak, meaning koba would be dead if vfp was simply just the save
yeah youre right and im an idiot, i never realized they claimed weak vig

so mafia roleblocker or rolestopper?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:02 pm
by DkKoba
knowing datisi the balance would be more leaning scumsided from him, which is confirmed fmpov.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:03 pm
by VFP
In post 2366, DkKoba wrote:exactly
Wouldn't it be better to let you die and just heal me?
I have seen 2 scum docs before, but I don't see that here regardless sin ce I'm pretty sure town only had a cop and vig in that game too.
Also no idea if it was under normal or not. Probably not as that's hard to pass as a normal.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:04 pm
by VFP
In post 2369, osuka wrote:fuck i completely missed that
So did I.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:04 pm
by Andante
so you all wanna call Koba fake vig/ assume VFP was rolestopped....

rolestopper on VFP makes about 0 sense.


Guys, lets consider Asteria for a second. D1 had 0 pr tells, panic claimed a gunned role here once I said they have a gun. I do not like Asteria's claim, and I also feel like VFP/Salsa are scum together, but I'll let yall do you

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:05 pm
by Asteria
In post 2387, osuka wrote:
In post 2384, Asteria wrote:
In post 2381, osuka wrote:
In post 2367, Asteria wrote:So there's no reason for 2 docs unless there are more town killing roles
this is a dumb take
What's the purpose? Why have 2 protections if you only ever have the risk of 1 weak vig
did you forget this is a datisi setup
Right. Well either way I guess there's no point speculating what can't be solved as is

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:06 pm
by Andante
2 scum docs would mean, Koba will likely only be able to shoot town :/

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:07 pm
by Andante
well what's the plan here? leave pr claims alone again? even though Asteria is basically confirmed scum?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:07 pm
by Salsabil Faria
In post 2372, osuka wrote:mafia doc + mafia rolestopper + mafia rb sounds a bit too stacked to me

also i would imagine a mafia rolestopper on vfp would stop weak vig from dying, since the action never happens? is that right or am i wrong?
Most probably right (I'm not the right person to answer this question though). If
DkKoba
are a town weak vig, mafia has a doctor + a rolestopper + ?.
What do you think about
VFP
atp?
VFP
's being town makes sense in that scenario, or they being scum?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:07 pm
by VFP
In post 2382, Asteria wrote:What is the case on vfp again? @anybody who scumreads them
Because I called Dragon town.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:08 pm
by Andante
In post 2396, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2372, osuka wrote:mafia doc + mafia rolestopper + mafia rb sounds a bit too stacked to me

also i would imagine a mafia rolestopper on vfp would stop weak vig from dying, since the action never happens? is that right or am i wrong?
Most probably right (I'm not the right person to answer this question though). If
DkKoba
are a town weak vig, mafia has a doctor + a rolestopper + ?.
What do you think about
VFP
atp?
VFP
's being town makes sense in that scenario, or they being scum?
vfp is scum

maf didn't realize koba would've died if they didn't roleblock them

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:08 pm
by InsidiousLemons
In post 2392, Andante wrote:so you all wanna call Koba fake vig/ assume VFP was rolestopped....

rolestopper on VFP makes about 0 sense.
why does this make no sense to you? it's one of the only ways VFP and koba could have both lived