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In post 2374, koopashell wrote:

In post 2372, Scorpious wrote:Just saying…

Lim all liars used to be a thing..

Why are you instigating?

Btw by that token, FL lied about his Mala read intentionally then took it back and said he lied about it when he pushed her, so wheres your Gamma vote?

JV, why is HEM outside your POE?

I think its honestly really impressive that under pressure, Nk15 ignores it and goes straight for pushing for info for his own solve. Chad move.

I certainly do not have that level of self control, and I think people should listen to him more.

I want to express I feel a lot of undue pressure to "get it right" today. My brain is arguing with itself saying that letting NK15 is the best choice because in the case of them being a wolf it at least gets a wolf down and if they are town it lets us not be a chained mislim.
Because if I am wrong on my pushes - and they go through- wolves could concievably leave me alive to be pushed.
In that regard, anyone who has shaded me is a candiate for being a wolf *if* i get roleblocked in that scenario. I have a fear that is what will happen then, and holistic analysis will go out the window in favor of bias.
So know that I have been extemely careful in who I want eliminated at this phase - and why it is only 2 people- as if I miss, I potentially mess up the game. I am gated so i do have some relief there that I won't be blocked if kept alive and at least I can confirm someone.

In post 2379, koopashell wrote:I want to express I feel a lot of undue pressure to "get it right" today. My brain is arguing with itself saying that letting NK15 is the best choice because in the case of them being a wolf it at least gets a wolf down and if they are town it lets us not be a chained mislim.
Because if I am wrong on my pushes - and they go through- wolves could concievably leave me alive to be pushed.
In that regard, anyone who has shaded me is a candiate for being a wolf *if* i get roleblocked in that scenario. I have a fear that is what will happen then, and holistic analysis will go out the window in favor of bias.
So know that I have been extemely careful in who I want eliminated at this phase - and why it is only 2 people- as if I miss, I potentially mess up the game. I am gated so i do have some relief there that I won't be blocked if kept alive and at least I can confirm someone.

This doesn't make sense to me. Please explain.

I feel the bar is extremely high for me and it has led to a lot frustration where I have to qualify my reads a lot more than others have - simply because a couple go against consensus.

I cannot be wolf with all 3 of Roden, Kitty, and NK15 , but yet a majority of players think they are not town. I - even if wolf - am 100% defending a townie in this 3 , and they are all strong candidates for elimination - or at least WERE.

So yeah. That's where I'm at.

In post 2380, Not Known 15 wrote:

In post 2379, koopashell wrote:I want to express I feel a lot of undue pressure to "get it right" today. My brain is arguing with itself saying that letting NK15 is the best choice because in the case of them being a wolf it at least gets a wolf down and if they are town it lets us not be a chained mislim.
Because if I am wrong on my pushes - and they go through- wolves could concievably leave me alive to be pushed.
In that regard, anyone who has shaded me is a candiate for being a wolf *if* i get roleblocked in that scenario. I have a fear that is what will happen then, and holistic analysis will go out the window in favor of bias.
So know that I have been extemely careful in who I want eliminated at this phase - and why it is only 2 people- as if I miss, I potentially mess up the game. I am gated so i do have some relief there that I won't be blocked if kept alive and at least I can confirm someone.

This doesn't make sense to me. Please explain.

The post wasn't for you and I don't feel I need to explain this more as I meant exactly what I said.

In post 2374, koopashell wrote:

In post 2372, Scorpious wrote:Just saying…

Lim all liars used to be a thing..

Why are you instigating?

How am I instigating?

You said you lied. And I gave you a fact..

If I wanted to instigate I would instigate..

Koopapedit 1-

Don't be an ass. I don't appreciate gaslighting.

In post 2384, koopashell wrote:Don't be an ass. I don't appreciate gaslighting.

Don’t start with virtue signal words to get at me…

I don’t like your play. And I like your ego even less..

Just avoid me, and I’ll grant the same favor..

I don't like your play either. It lacks a depth of thought I'd normally eliminate for - but you are blatantly uninformed.

In post 2386, koopashell wrote:I don't like your play either. It lacks a depth of thought I'd normally eliminate for - but you are blatantly uninformed.

Right, you’d “normally eliminate”… this is your second game, and I’m assuming you can’t talk about your other..

Like I said. Pump the brakes a bit on that ego..

In post 2227, Malakittens wrote:

In post 2223, JacksonVirgo wrote:Not even going to lie, I think if koopa wasn't a PR claimant I'd think they would be paired with either Kitty or NK as they keep attempting to switch to another wagon immediately after saying they'd settle down on a vote. Like not like gradual, wait I do think this is better type of movement. They throw up a case, it gets debunks and they settle back down.

its possible that koopa could be a scum pr

but either way hes not the lim for today

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


i still want nk or kitty lim

gamma thoughts

you honestly gave me faith of my fl townread

I’d be fine voting out NK15 but he’s not my first pick
I only really feel like he’s scum if Scorpious is, since I feel NK15’s play around him is weird

In post 2370, koopashell wrote:

In post 2368, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2366, koopashell wrote:I am also frustrated at you finding my strengthened townread on you to be suspicious when you yourself pushed me to read your meta as if you felt it was obvious when you are a wolf - so there's that

I wouldn't have an issue with it if it was believable.

1. Your meta-dive on me was concluded in you being more confident I was scum.
2. I couldn't find a post where you described what about that post you referred to made me lock-town. Or at least with details enough to make me lock-town rather than just continuing a strong town read on me like before.

Ok I guess I'll come clean - I was tunneled and I lied about really meta diving you and skimmed your list of threads and chose the first mafia chat I could find

This is why I'm inclined to not particularly take any of your reads seriously or as indicative as to where I'll vote despite the fact I'm close to certain you're town - you're clearly just making up things as you go along to suit your own narrative because you want to lead the town and can't envisage an alternative where you don't. If you've lied about doing a proper meta on JV then I'm not particularly convinced you've done all that much meta on anyone else or ISO work on anyone despite claiming to have done so, you're looking for what you want to find, not what will solve the game and find mafia which is our goal.

VOTE: Kitty

Back here because there are multiple ways to fry a turtle..

In post 2389, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2370, koopashell wrote:

In post 2368, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 2366, koopashell wrote:I am also frustrated at you finding my strengthened townread on you to be suspicious when you yourself pushed me to read your meta as if you felt it was obvious when you are a wolf - so there's that

I wouldn't have an issue with it if it was believable.

1. Your meta-dive on me was concluded in you being more confident I was scum.
2. I couldn't find a post where you described what about that post you referred to made me lock-town. Or at least with details enough to make me lock-town rather than just continuing a strong town read on me like before.

Ok I guess I'll come clean - I was tunneled and I lied about really meta diving you and skimmed your list of threads and chose the first mafia chat I could find

This is why I'm inclined to not particularly take any of your reads seriously or as indicative as to where I'll vote despite the fact I'm close to certain you're town - you're clearly just making up things as you go along to suit your own narrative because you want to lead the town and can't envisage an alternative where you don't. If you've lied about doing a proper meta on JV then I'm not particularly convinced you've done all that much meta on anyone else or ISO work on anyone despite claiming to have done so, you're looking for what you want to find, not what will solve the game and find mafia which is our goal.

I havent? Want to go down that route?

I have several posts with analysis with quoted from others
I have referenced major game events to make my readd
I'd appreciatr if you didnt imply im a garbage player by saying stuff like that over a short tunnel i admitted to

Koopa,
Serious question.

What is your take on the strategy of maf flooding the game as an attempt to hide in plain sight?

Extemely bad because it brings attention on you.

Also your question lacks proper nuance.

For example. - a wolf may flood the thread in the moment to hide something. Or to hide the fact they dont have reads.
Wolves cannot reliably hyperpost and maintain no TMI tells without resorting to obfuscation tactics

koopa, if you were town, and if it's indeed people are losing confidence about you, how do you think the mafia would manipulate a gamestate like this?

i mean, if you're right, this is your only day and the only day for you to be effective

Depends how the elimination goes and whether or not they have a roleblock
If the elimination makes me look bad - likely kill someone else thats threatening the team dayplay wise or a PR read - esp with roleblocker in play
If it makes me look OK or "good" - just kill me - if theres a roleblocker that opens up more and they could do different dtuff.


Either subtle shade or a soft defense is what I would expect from dayplay currently - however.

Which also - coincidentally- tracks with your treatment of me.