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In post 2399, Wisdom wrote:Yeh I'm sick of your "debunking". You're quite obviously prefectly capable of doing it, so it does not mean much for me anymore.

In post 2396, qwints wrote:Some quick responses to grim's walling
1) The notes were a one time thing taken during my re-read. I definitely overstated the extent of my notes in my first reference, which I made clear in response to Wisdom's probing on the subject. I have not been taking notes since that initial re-read.
2) Self-meta is always bullshit. The games I've played are on my wiki, and I've played with several of the people in here before. I'll be glad to point out games that fit a certain criteria if anyone wants to look, but I don't see a point in my describing my own play.
3) Elyse and I's QT has been quiet. Since elyse's description, elyse commented that she thought amrun was town and grim was scum and that enomis was the best lynch from that lynchpool. I've said that AP's hammer seemed scummy and asked her what she thought of enomis's sudden activity before the challenge today. She re-affirmed her scum-read of enomis and has complained about how the game is going.

Meanwhile, let me restate the main reason I think grim is scum right now (which, despite the fact that grim replied to it, hasn't gotten enough scrutiny)

Grim was voting NS. He repeatedly said that NS was a good vote. But he got off the wagon as soon as it picked up steam, and then got back on once it appeared inevitable. Look at these posts, four hours apart:

In post 1135, Grimgroove wrote:I believe sticking with NS for now is better.

In post 1139, Grimgroove wrote:Do you think AP made up his RL story?

You sound frustrated you're being bereft of an almost certain mislynch because of reasons you don't like.

But just because you don't like the reasons, doesn't mean they're not valid.

And they are. Not only Majiffy's logic convinced me (I was thinknig along the same lines anyway when it comes to that), but also A's description of what was going on sounds too genuine to be fake. There's no way you can't see that.

I'm going to move my vote back on to you, because of this obvious disappointment you're enduring. If you're town, you should be happy there were arguments brought forward that make AP very very town.

VOTE: Wisdom

He then unvotes Wisdom in 1146, and says that we need more from NS, BUT DOESN'T REVOTE NS. Why? BECAUSE THERE'S NOW A CHANCE NS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE THE LYNCH. Even though, his original reasoning for voting NS was to get more from NS. See 886 and 895.

He only goes back to voting NS to place the L-1 vote with his tough sounding post that lined up the Amrun mislynch:

In post 1239, Grimgroove wrote:Fine, I'll take you AtE.
I obviously did not read your game again, I might as well start reading the Bible, but pff, I thought about it.
I'd feel bad about letting you slide once again in case you do end up being scum, but I'd feel worse if you're actual town having put a lot of effort in this game and letting Nobody Special being lurksack lazy scum with 11 posts live on. Somehow doesn't seem fair.
So yeah, congrats, your AtE worked.
But I still think your play vis-à-vis Amrun has been very dubious. I hope you agree she is the next one to lynch and won't be throwing around any wild scenraios again just to make her seem town somehow. She is obvscum.

VOTE: Nobody Special

This is

L-1

.

I do think last words from Nobody Special are in order.

What's different now that makes him vote (read: bus) NS? There are no other viable options, with only one (1) vote anywhere else.

Grimgroove wrote:

In post 2399, Wisdom wrote:Yeh I'm sick of your "debunking". You're quite obviously prefectly capable of doing it, so it does not mean much for me anymore.

This is truly retarded. Seriously. I get that you're getting tired of the game or something,b ut that's no excuse to get obvtown lynched. Read 2381.

And qwints is scum, for event rying to bring that up again. I have explained my stance on Nobody Special thousands of times, yet he simply ignored it, goes back in time, and gives it scrutiny by simply hypothesizing over scenarios.

FUCK YOU FOR VOTING ME WISDOM.
Seriously.

In post 2407, Venmar wrote:Majiffy move your vote to Grim then. Elyse is a terrible lynch now.

In post 2406, Majiffy wrote:I don't particularly like your QT post. Reads very self-conscious, as if you had planned on eventually posting it to try to look town.

In post 2408, Elyse wrote:

Grimgroove wrote:

In post 2399, Wisdom wrote:Yeh I'm sick of your "debunking". You're quite obviously prefectly capable of doing it, so it does not mean much for me anymore.

This is truly retarded. Seriously. I get that you're getting tired of the game or something,b ut that's no excuse to get obvtown lynched. Read 2381.

And qwints is scum, for event rying to bring that up again. I have explained my stance on Nobody Special thousands of times, yet he simply ignored it, goes back in time, and gives it scrutiny by simply hypothesizing over scenarios.

FUCK YOU FOR VOTING ME WISDOM.
Seriously.

This post is really scummy.

First, since when are you obvtown? This whole game you've (admittedly) waffled around reads, been completely wrong, made mistakes, and said you would sheep people. How is that obvtown?

Second, how is qwints scummy for bringing up a reason for you as scum? He is actively trying to lynch you today and stated that multiple times.

Grim and Qwints are both in two of my suspected scumteams so I am good with lynching Grim.

I guess I would prefer a qwints lynch, but not by much, and there doesn't seem to be enough support for one.

In post 2410, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 2406, Majiffy wrote:I don't particularly like your QT post. Reads very self-conscious, as if you had planned on eventually posting it to try to look town.

I can't believe this.

Yeah, just lynch me then. If after that post I'm not obvtown, I don't know what will make me. Didn't think anyone would put it in thier mind I would actually make up such a thing. Fuck. All of you.

In post 2412, Majiffy wrote:

In post 2410, Grimgroove wrote:

In post 2406, Majiffy wrote:I don't particularly like your QT post. Reads very self-conscious, as if you had planned on eventually posting it to try to look town.

I can't believe this.

Yeah, just lynch me then. If after that post I'm not obvtown, I don't know what will make me. Didn't think anyone would put it in thier mind I would actually make up such a thing. Fuck. All of you.

umad?

usoundmad.

In post 2413, Grimgroove wrote:Majiffy is angry I'm scumreading him again.

In post 2408, Elyse wrote:

Grimgroove wrote:

In post 2399, Wisdom wrote:Yeh I'm sick of your "debunking". You're quite obviously prefectly capable of doing it, so it does not mean much for me anymore.

This is truly retarded. Seriously. I get that you're getting tired of the game or something,b ut that's no excuse to get obvtown lynched. Read 2381.

And qwints is scum, for event rying to bring that up again. I have explained my stance on Nobody Special thousands of times, yet he simply ignored it, goes back in time, and gives it scrutiny by simply hypothesizing over scenarios.

FUCK YOU FOR VOTING ME WISDOM.
Seriously.

This post is really scummy.

First, since when are you obvtown? This whole game you've (admittedly) waffled around reads, been completely wrong, made mistakes, and said you would sheep people. How is that obvtown?

Second, how is qwints scummy for bringing up a reason for you as scum? He is actively trying to lynch you today and stated that multiple times.

Grim and Qwints are both in two of my suspected scumteams so I am good with lynching Grim.

I guess I would prefer a qwints lynch, but not by much, and there doesn't seem to be enough support for one.

In post 2408, Elyse wrote:
Grim and Qwints are both in two of my suspected scumteams so I am good with lynching Grim.

In post 2418, Majiffy wrote: Why are you suddenly gung-ho for Elyse now that a wagon is mounting on you?