Piper I have a question for you, remind me tomorrow when I'm back.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:41 pm
by The Pied Piper
↑True Ogre wrote:Piper I have a question for you, remind me tomorrow when I'm back.
Okay
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:52 pm
by True Ogre
ty, probs 24 hours or so.
Thoughts on TWL if any?
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:56 pm
by Mirhawk
I still kind of think Seniors is town.
Which means every major wagon yesterday was on a town player. (open to debate if you're not me)
I'm thinking scum are going to be in players who weren't trying too hard to look for scum outside the major wagons. Or players who were trying to look involved without changing the gamestate.
I may be biased in this though as it fits fairly well with most of my existing reads. I'm still going to look into it some more though.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:09 pm
by The Pied Piper
True Ogre wrote:ty, probs 24 hours or so.
Thoughts on TWL if any?
I didn't mind what I was seeing from them early day 1; I didn't mind their end of the day behaviour either. Mala was clearly not caught up but she was trying to be around and she seemed to believe people who said that Ranger was the only viable wagon.
I'd like to see more from them. I think the night kill analysis case on them is okayish but I think pushing them for inactivity is lame.
I still feel like Mala would have been posting differently early on if she were scum together with my scumreads, even though I have different scumreads now than I did the last time I said that.
I'm still townleaning them but they're sort of in the middle of my reads list. I only have four people who aren't at least "town enough i guess," though, which isn't the right number.
I want to read the last forty pages with the amount of attention to detail they deserve but it's going to have to happen on a day that I'm less underslept. tomorrow, perhaps.
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:27 pm
by Mirhawk
↑Mirhawk wrote:The Wrong Lynch has been in my pool for a long time, I've just don't talk about it. I found some of their early - mid stuff poorly justified or opportunistic or something like that. Nothing they've said since has made me consider moving them out of it though. Their posts don't feel like they're trying to find anything, more like they're trying to look involved.
This still sums up my opinion on TWL.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:42 am
by Skybird
I read through Tictac's ISO. The conversation with beeboy early game didn’t indicate anything to me. I don’t see anything strongly AI from either of them. It was jut eh. Tictac comments on things but I didn’t see any strong feelings from him or any pushes. Right now I just put them as null on my reads list. I’d like to see more from them today so I can sort them one way or the other.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:13 am
by tictac
Seniors looks more towny from the claim.
Still happy with pist scumread last elaborated in 1646.
Really don't like how she still hasn't interacted with my posts
at all
. VOTE: pist
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:26 am
by SirCakez
Really don't think Seniors is scum here. This isn't an elaborate game like Tarot, I don't see something like that being put in.
^ post from Tictac was terrible. Literally no commet on anything but Seniors is town from claim (obvious) and going back to an ancient Pist scumread to wagon.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:15 am
by The Pied Piper
↑SirCakez wrote:Really don't think Seniors is scum here. This isn't an elaborate game like Tarot, I don't see something like that being put in.
^ post from Tictac was terrible. Literally no commet on anything but Seniors is town from claim (obvious) and going back to an ancient Pist scumread to wagon.
i have Seniors as townish from NKA but I don't see how you'd arrive at "not elaborate" with the amount of role PMs a town player has available to them at this point in time. It's not role madness from the Ranger flip, but fruit vendor is a role that can be given to either side. Paint and Butterfly weren't role madness either and had an ordinary amount of VTs.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:31 am
by SirCakez
I mean in comparison to Tarot this isn't that elaborate. Very standard roles flipped here so far.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:36 am
by The Pied Piper
Scum fruit vendor is a standard role. In tarot, fruit vendor was only a part of my role, but in butterfly it massive's entire role and same for davsto in paint.
so yeah. it's a confirmable role that can be of either alignment.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:43 am
by dramonic
vote: Axel
you people
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:44 am
by SirCakez
A lot of those are giving false feedback though for some reason. For example neither Open 630 or Legend of Zelda had a scum fruit vendor.
P-Edit: that's also a good vote
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:50 am
by The Pied Piper
Probably, but I'd imagine the amount of false feedback would be the same for both alignments.
This will of course leave out any games where it was called something else (visitor, wig vendor, ice cream vendor or where the player survived to endgame and the mod didn't update the op...you'll notice paint and tarot aren't in the mafia results there. but it's good enough.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:51 am
by SirCakez
OK yea I get the point it's not impossible. I just don't think it's the situation here unless something else comes up to change my mind.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:54 am
by The Pied Piper
Yeah I agree about Seniors in particular because they would've killed Tammy not Spiffeh.
The confirmable role != confirmable alignment thing is more of a pet peeve than anything. I'll stop arguing about this now.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:12 am
by Rob14
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:23 am
by Friendless Seniors
I really am not liking pied piper. This looks like Plotscum. Nacho looks town but I really am having a hard time shaking plot-scum here.
@Ogs NKA usually sucks, but sometimes it doesn't? In the case of odd-ball kills like spiffeh who just ham-fisted a lynch on a townie, it very likely paints to someone. Spiffeh went pretty hard against twl. Theres a few other suspects, but I think TWL would be most probable.
I'd be okay with Piper/Pistachio/Cerb/TWL right now. Not in any particular order. I'll likely do more investigation on plot before I really do anything to push that
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:25 am
by SirCakez
Why is everyone so opposed to Tictac all of a sudden?
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:25 am
by Friendless Seniors
I forgot tictac
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:30 am
by davesaz
While I'm off doing that research I mentioned, here's a good use of a vote. VOTE: dramonic
Time for more than rolling your eyes.
pedit: Oh, I think tictac is scummy all right. Just not in a huge hurry, with so much to review from d1.
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:51 am
by tictac
Yeehokay then VOTE: Dramonic I do wanna hear whats up there.
Iwanna hear whyI'm scummy or how I'm less memorable than dramonic.