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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:43 pm

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In post 2398, Kthxbye wrote:
In post 2392, Mathdino wrote:re: you targeting beefster: yes, that's the whole point, if you get no result and scum still kills, that clears beefster as town
walk me through this? how? how does this clear him as town if there are 4 mafia in play?
If there are 4 mafia in play, ideally the worst will be able to clear him anyway.

If the worst dies, then we still have your result on Beefster, and can start narrowing down who was able to do the nightkill last night, which is the most important question here.
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:43 pm

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In post 2397, Mathdino wrote:I am already finalising my decision to not do anything, so Not_Mafia can clear me by getting a result of "no motion detected".
THIS DOES NOT CLEAR YOU IT JUST MEANS YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:45 pm

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Kthx, any positive utility you think you get from doing your plan over mine (which clears Beefster and me, just like you wanted) is FAR less than the negative utility of you being the only person tonight who doesn't follow the plan.

If you are the only person who doesn't follow the plan tonight, it is very possible that we lose because of you.

The hammer was already posted, Gamma just needs to come and lock the thread. We don't have time for others to confirm that they prefer your plan. I have been the de facto nightplan creator.

I promise you that I will be cleared tonight or tomorrow night. Just target Beefster so we actually get a fucking result on him if the worst dies.
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:45 pm

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In post 2401, Kthxbye wrote:
In post 2397, Mathdino wrote:I am already finalising my decision to not do anything, so Not_Mafia can clear me by getting a result of "no motion detected".
THIS DOES NOT CLEAR YOU IT JUST MEANS YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!
What the fuck mafia team do you think I'm on then?
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:46 pm

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fine, w/e. If everyone else is great with your plan, fuck em if you're scum. I'll just post "I fucking told you so" at the end of the game till the thread is deleted.

For the record, the "I told you so" will come from not clearing a claimed BG who 'wants to die as soon a possible' yet never dies.

I'd vote Bu here to make a point of me throwing my hands up, but he's already lynched and we are arguing in twilight at this point. WTFE
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:49 pm

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I'll do your setup spec for you.

Mathdino-scum means he never actually protected Iconeum, yet scum still shot through Beefster's protection of mastina.

List of scumteams available:
Mathdino/Beefster: This is a consistent team that can be disproven tonight by having all 3 investigatives target the two of us. This ONLY works under my plan. Your plan is definitively unable to rule out this scumteam.
Mathdino/the worst: This would make the worst a strongman. Theoretically possible.
Mathdino/Bujaber: Bujaber's fucking dying so you're good in this situation.
Mathdino/InfernoBrafin: Literally impossible because the worst towncleared IB.
Mathdino/Marangal: Theoretically possible, requires me to be a scum strongman AND for Marangal to be a scum messenger who was blocked by Beefster AND faked multiple townslips.
Mathdino/Not_Mafia: Requires me to be a scum strongman. We can literally lynch Not_Mafia tomorrow if this makes you happy. His role becomes effectively useless tomorrow so I'm kinda planning to do this anyway.
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:50 pm

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In post 2404, Kthxbye wrote:For the record, the "I told you so" will come from not clearing a claimed BG who 'wants to die as soon a possible' yet never dies.
I can't die if there's a scum strongman. That's my point. I have no control over whether or not I die. I believe the strongman was put in place to balance out the 3 protectives and 2 roleblocks.

PLUS I WILL BE CLEARED TONIGHT UNDER THE ASSUMPTION OF 3 MAFIA

If there are 4 mafia, my partner MUST be either Marangal or Not_Mafia.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:52 pm

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In post 2404, Kthxbye wrote:I'd vote Bu here to make a point of me throwing my hands up, but he's already lynched and we are arguing in twilight at this point. WTFE
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:56 pm

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In post 2351, Mathdino wrote:
In post 2349, Momrangal wrote:Mod already confirmed that scum can't kill and use an ability (I think) and if he was strongman, he has been doing the kills each night. N2, he couldn't have because he targeted me so he isn't strongman for sure
The mod never said this. Scum can absolutely perform a factional kill and perform night actions.

@Mod: Please confirm that a mafia power role can both perform a night action and perform the factional kill.


This is either a major townslip or a major scumslip.
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:59 pm

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Flavor eventually.
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Everdred, Town Compulsive Visitor
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(expired on 2018-03-18 15:20:00) for night actions. Accelerated night is available if everyone requests it.
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:30 am

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Kthxbye,
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, was killed* Night 3.
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:45 am

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Votecount 4.0(6) Not voting: everyone

(expired on 2018-04-02 17:45:00)
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:45 am

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Kthx, that is why I wanted you off me.

Not_Mafia, confirm no movement from me?

the worst, confirm Beefster as town?
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:19 am

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Inferno


Yeah, there is going to be no movement from Math.
You know why?
He's got a scumbuddy here somewhere (perhaps N_M, though I somewhat doubt it), and so his partner did the killing last night!

It makes sense considering the number of convenient things that have happened for Math this game.
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:20 am

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god help us
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:21 am

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Mhmm.

Tell us, Math, why that doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:25 am

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because acryon literally gladiated me with fucking iconeum while there was a sizable portion of the game willing to lynch me
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:29 am

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Brafin

Acryon was a traitor. The mafia traitor does not always know his partners.
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:30 am

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Brafin

I'd argue that you've used AtA and some shady "ynch me" claims to make yourself look like town. :)
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:31 am

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Inferno:


See, I knew that was going to be your response, and Brafin beat me to the point. :lol:
Yeah, Traitor doesn't always know his partners. That's a really lame excuse to not be scum.

I really am starting to think your trying to hide behind the bodyguard claim.
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:33 am

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unvote while i'm video gaming so you don't game throw

this is mylo

if there's a 2 person scumteam they quicklynch with one more vote on me
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:33 am

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*this is hypotehtically mylo

we don't even have results from anyone
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:34 am

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Inferno:


Yeah, and you don't think town knows that?
I think you just don't like the pressure. :D
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:34 am

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inferno i swear your reads are literally consistently worse than random

unvote now
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:35 am

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if i'm scum, i'm not getting quicklynched no matter what

but i'm town and 2 scum + 1 bad town have the ability to quicklynch me

there is no positive value to you keeping your vote there
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