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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:55 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2250, Flavor Leaf wrote: In post 2247, Torque wrote: In post 2244, Flavor Leaf wrote: In post 2237, Torque wrote:@FL Sigh whatever. I won't touch you or Clem today. My patience hasn't been high because I'm in every position to just sheep Mastina and take the easy way to play and even told her I'd do it but I'm never really all that convinced.
Telling you how I'm playing totally defeats the purpose. Sorry. But I have plans with you if Near and Mello flip scum today. Which... I don't actually hate going in that direction. Although you don't think Gamma sheeping your case on Near but recently sheeped Near's case on Robert is awfully scummy? Like, what does that make Robert in her pov? Does she talk about that?
Gamma’s one of the players I’m closest with on site. She’s even the first player to mod a game in my BooneyToonz series that isn’t me. We’ve won town games together. If I town read Gamma and Gamma made solid points, and I wasn’t sure where to go, I’d Sheep Gamma definitely, and I feel we’re in that position, but reverse.
I feel like Mastina wants to lynch me as like an achievement, if that makes sense. As does Wisdom, but Wisdom’s achievement is he wants to beat me in a 1v1 when he’s scum.
That doesn't say anything why Gamma can't be a wolf doing the same thing or using that to get a chance to jump off Robert or whatever ._.
You’re right. I don’t have a town case for Gamma other than I don’t think she’s scum, but I generally feel like I can soul read Gamma, and the fact I don’t scum read her makes me feel she’s just town.
I’m not scum reading you for pushing there, and continue pushing there and I’ll try to explain more when I can put it into words.
I feel like everything said against her is NAI, and I understand that it comes off as scummy when she just sheeps, but she DOES do that as town too. It’s just a personality thing. She was reacting heavily to stuff earlier, I feel she just lost cohesiveness in this game.
Tbh I think the lack of doubt here makes FL more likely scum and for separate logic to my Wisdom suspicions. Pretty much every time me + FL are Town/Town he waffles on me at least once. So this type of confidence is a bad sign from him.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:55 pm
by Dunnstral
So Clemency just took a jab at me while he was replacing out for some reason?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2270, mastina wrote: In post 2239, Chito and Yuuri wrote:
Chito: FL has made his point; he doesn't think this post is scummy. That's fine.
I would like other people's reads of Gamma, though, particularly Spike and Jet, A50, mastina, and Pink Ball, and I'd like to know whether they buy this as a town!Gamma vote.
I'd like to formally announce that Dunnstral is kicked out of the poe pool and that Gamma's back in …
…As around RP levels of chance of being scum.
As in, don't think that she is, now, but she's a backup candidate who COULD be.
This looks organic tbh
Yeah at this point looking over this divide carefully I think I am preferring the anti-FL side
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:07 pm
by Ankamius
hmm
I'm undecided about FL currently; I'm leaning closer to scum than town based on the weird timings of how he approached the PT, but at the same time I felt he got a bit more town once he started moving away from reading the PT itself and role stuff.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:08 pm
by Ankamius
I think I'm going to need to parse how the wagons formed and dissipated on D1 to get an effective set of reads going, I feel like that's going to be very important to figuring out how exactly scum approached this game.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:10 pm
by Ankamius
ftr if FL is scum, then I could easily see Drixx being the nightkill specifically to pocket the neighborhood.
The timings I am referring to is, as far as I can tell via Drixx's comment on Vedith flipping scum, between D1 and D2.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:11 pm
by Gamma Emerald
It worked for Korina so...
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:11 pm
by Dunnstral
Drixx kind of counterclaimed "ramping doctor" which is likely enough to get him nightkilled for
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2315, Flavor Leaf wrote:I just don’t feel like putting the effort in anymore.
And people, like Mastina, are just gonna say it’s me “tactical replacement” but that’s only if I am scum, and I’m not.
I respect my scum game too much to do that.
I don’t think I’ve ever replaced out as scum before come to think about it.
This is exactly what I anticipated
VOTE: Sevena
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:13 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2408, Dunnstral wrote:Drixx kind of counterclaimed "ramping doctor" which is likely enough to get him nightkilled for
Probably, yeah
I would name this as a secondary reason, then
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:13 pm
by Spike and Jet
i do expect an ascetic scum, but it wouldnt entirely surprise me if like, theres an unclaimed ascetic scum and 3 ascetic town (in a vacuum, ignoring reads)
so i wouldnt wanna lynch just based on that
with FL being replaced i dont really have opposition to killing that slot any more
think roberts our best shot tho
p-ed
if drixx died for anything other than the role cc i think it would be the sr on mastina
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:15 pm
by Ankamius
Please let me at least get some semblance of where the gamestate is at before ending the day.
It's a lot easier to fine-tune my reads based on flip info if I already have a basis to work from.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:16 pm
by singletonking
I have no idea how to read FL, but I’m tempted to vote them because the top two scumhunters in this game are hard scumreading them
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:16 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2395, Near x Mello wrote:gamma youve played with me enough.
saying fl's points on me were solid is not acceptable.
~Near
I could still say what I liked if C&Y still want it but there's no way I'm not voting FL anytime soon
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:17 pm
by Near x Mello
go ahead, day is not close to ending
@ank
~Near
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:17 pm
by Near x Mello
In post 2414, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2395, Near x Mello wrote:gamma youve played with me enough.
saying fl's points on me were solid is not acceptable.
~Near
I could still say what I liked if C&Y still want it but there's no way I'm not voting FL anytime soon
do it, i want to hear what you liked
~Near
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:26 pm
by Chito and Yuuri
In post 2414, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2395, Near x Mello wrote:gamma youve played with me enough.
saying fl's points on me were solid is not acceptable.
~Near
I could still say what I liked if C&Y still want it but there's no way I'm not voting FL anytime soon
Chito:
I'll hear you out. I remember earlier you "townbinning" someone just because they wrote wall posts so I'll be honest that I am skeptical, but maybe I am just being too cynical.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Thanks. I agree that me flipping perspectives like that was bad but it just goes to show I'm not focused on the game at all
Fyi that response might be a while as I am trying to fix a formatting error that breaks the site
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:06 pm
by Pink Ball
Hey Near, I have my own reads! Ask me
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:11 pm
by Near x Mello
im listening
~Near
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:15 pm
by Pink Ball
You're town and flavor leaf too. Both reads of mine yay
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:16 pm
by Near x Mello
half of your reads are good
~Near
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:17 pm
by Pink Ball
Oh ok VOTE: Near x Mello
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:18 pm
by Near x Mello
for the other half youre shallowly townreading fl because hes charismatic scum and got you to
so yeah
~Near