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In post 2394, Salamence20 wrote:If no disc was used I shouldnt have 3 votes unless someone gifted me 2 votes with their night action.

I think stun still allows me to be targeted

This would be a nice framing setup for you, but i have a couple issues with it:

1) I think it is very unlikely that scum has access to a vote gift ability in addition to another roleblocking power (we lynched their Bewitcher, which is a soft-roleblock)
2) I doubt that the votegift is coming from town after your performance yesterday.

I can figure there are votegifting abilities given the mechanics of this game and Evenstar's role PM, but i don't see them coming from scum, and... there's a lot of roleblocking power in this game if scum has access to a Stunner too.

Then I dont know what to tell you other than this is a mistake and a potential misunderstanding

Could votegift be random target?

We have time to discuss this in-depth.

If your claim is true, the scumteam has probably access to:

1) Factional kill
2) Stun as a night ability
3) Votegift as a night ability

I... just don't see this being real.

Otherwise, Stun could be a vote-reaction ability. Who did you vote besides me? Who voted you?

pedit: hardly

In post 2403, Farkran wrote:We have time to discuss this in-depth.

If your claim is true, the scumteam has probably access to:

1) Factional kill
2) Stun as a night ability
3) Votegift as a night ability

I... just don't see this being real.

Otherwise, Stun could be a vote-reaction ability. Who did you vote besides me? Who voted you?

pedit: hardly

What if there's a votegift that redirected onto Salamence?

How about: Hey! If anyone votegifted salamence or votegifted 2 votes and his target didn't get those or gives 2 votes at random or anything like that. We would appreciate you to come out!

In post 2404, Alchemist21 wrote: What if there's a votegift that redirected onto Salamence?

Just how messed up do we think this setup is?

Btw ultimately my problem is that there are too many roleblocking powers in the scum team if a Stunner is there.

I could buy another town stunner (my Stun capabilities are limited), but then the 3 votes are totally unexplained, it would amount to an insane amount of coincidences involving Salamence

In post 2406, Farkran wrote:Just how messed up do we think this setup is?

I wouldn't put a redirector past this game.

I do agree this situation is weird though and I don't know what to make of it.

Votegifter doesnt make sense though.

I feel like I would have been notified that I got the vote bonus.

Wtf

Im sorry Farkran idk what to say.

Something doesnt add up.

Salamence so which disk did you try to use this night?

We can lynch Sala and Farkran and call it a day ngl.

Ok Salamence voted: Farkran, TL, Pops, Alchemist, Kerset, Pops (again), Farkran (again), Salamence20, Farkran (again).

I know i can't stun him on reactionary, TL claimed neighborizer or something so i don't think he could, Pops flipped and she couldn't, Salamence himself makes no sense, that leaves Alchemist and Kerset but they are very early votes and based on what i know i would assume that they do not count towards this purpose.

He has been voted by Severa, TL, Kerset

Nothing relevant there either unless Kerset is a votestunner, but i am already a votestunner so eh.

I am sure that my role had nothing to do with Salamence case. We can drop this possibility.

I need my daily dose of RC yelling at everyone.

Before I proceed to catch up, is the majority of the posts that I missed Farkran and Salamence20 arguing about statuses?

I guess the real question is

Would scum!salamence lie about his role and make up bs about being stunned last night to cover his lie?


Also, how does town!salamence know about the existence of a Stun status if he hadn't, in fact, been stunned last night?

It is clear that the scumteam made some research on the available magical girls, otherwise pops wouldn't have plausibly claimed sayaka, so they most likely know about the Stun status because it's present in the magireco game. However, they would only know about its existence, not its mechanics, and that would be the reason why salamence couldn't be consistent about his claim.

But does scum!salamence claim stunned over bewitched (which also blocks all targeting actions - the difference is that Bewitch does not block disc selection, memoria passives nor affect available votes), given that they had a bewitcher in their team?

Moreover, pops role PM specifically says that she was immune to roleblocks (that was a passive memoria, i don't know if stun takes precedence over that, but it certainly makes Bewitch harmless), so we may assume that other roleblockers exist - in fact, i do exist - but i don't know if there are more.

It would make sense for the scumteam to block salamence in order to prevent him from confirming his investigative claim, but the 3 votes are still completely unexplained.

I think people are better off disregarding this as Im pretty sure this is more of a misunderstanding than it is anything game-relevant. I completely understand lynching me though, but would advise to atleast keep me alive and go for the perfect town win.

What I said earlier about why Im town still stands, theres no reason for me to fake stunned as scum, among the other things I did D1.

I think Farkran is town, I think theres a misunderstanding somewhere that will probably be best for asking postgame. I dont think Shiro Drew is scum but the post willing to lynch me seems somewhat opportunistic. Kerset is a decent choice because her explanation doesnt really tell us why she didnt vote pops other than Severa and sheeping.

I think my other reads were mentioned before but Im looking at Kerset/Chemist/Suji/Chemist at this time.

Ill answer any other questions directed to me.

In post 2416, Sujimichi wrote:Before I proceed to catch up, is the majority of the posts that I missed Farkran and Salamence20 arguing about statuses?

Basically.

Hey sala i gave you a question

Then, I will do a quick skim through.

Kerset I used my second charge

...by the way...

In post 229, Salamence20 wrote:Oriko Mikuni

2 Accell 1 Blast 1 Charge (used a charge)

Night action: target a player, if they use an accele disk they get +40MP

Abikity Memoria: cant collect charges, immediately obtain bonus at random.

Magia: Target a player, recieve the name and all abilities of the target

You claimed your night action was give MP, not rolecop. Rolecop is your magia.

Hmmmmmm