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In post 2379, nomnomnom wrote:

In post 2376, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:

In post 2374, nomnomnom wrote: I'm not interested in lynching lurker slots on d1

You haven't completely come out of lurker status yourself from where I'm sitting.

Don't see how that's relevant to what I said.

You aren't allowed to talk about lurkers.

@Nom: JJH has many strong townreads, yet no "true" scumreads - is there something wrong with JJH?
Krazy Kat has sorta just been sheeping me around and stated multiple times there's no great lynch - and finally voted you without much explanation. Is there something wrong with Krazy Kat?
Why are they not more controversial than GeorgeBailey?

A lot of slots don't quite have strong/"true" scumreads. Attacking him over his reads list is meh.

You don't only produce reactions from the slot you're voting for - you produce reactions from the rest of the game towards the wagon.

In post 2394, nomnomnom wrote:His entire townpool has been people who have been talking

And...? Do you not agree on the townreads? You don't think Venus, JJ, or Michael Scott are town?

In post 2394, nomnomnom wrote:scumlean pool has been people that scumread him.

wrong, Chk and KA never scumleaned me. Davesaz is voting me but never expressed a scumread.

I actually feel the exact opposite. You literally just accused him of going with the flow and lacking original insight. Which I think is fair, and why he's in my POE. But it's the exact opposite of being the kind of controversial, lightning rod type player you said you want to lynch.

And I don't know how anyone can feel chk is faking here. His frustration with Nancy feels SUPER genuine.

In post 2396, chkflip wrote:Every push nom has made has been wildly vague, but that's not really that surprising coming from a slot that didn't give a shit about this game until half the deadline for the day was through.

It's not because I don't have the time to post that I don't give a shit about a game.
I was busy with rl stuff because my father has been asked to stay in quarantine considering he just came out of a cancer so he's highly at risk and I have to do errands for him almost everyday p. much and I've been trying to relax in my spare time so this game took a bit less importance during that time.
I've already said this before... I don't appreciate that people think I am not committed when I have a lot of stuff IRL that comes up all of a sudden because of all this shit.

pedit: I couldn't give less importance to cases given that to me it's someone trying to convince themselves that someone is scum.
What I care about is how someone establishes their case (if there's bad faith in there) and how the person reacts to the case. The rest is irrelevant to me.

pedit: K/K is a controversial slot that much is true.
I feel uneasy voting there despite thinking multiple times that the slot is scum.
I don't know... not much confidence going there.

In post 2395, The Fonz wrote:I feel like there is a disconnect between nom's stated "Lynch controversial slots" rationale and the choice of George as their lynch target.

Exactly!

In post 2402, GeorgeBailey wrote:

In post 2394, nomnomnom wrote:His entire townpool has been people who have been talking

And...? Do you not agree on the townreads? You don't think Venus, JJ, or Michael Scott are town?
.

I think jj is debatable and I have Mike as scumlean so far.

In post 2403, The Fonz wrote:I actually feel the exact opposite. You literally just accused him of going with the flow and lacking original insight. Which I think is fair, and why he's in my POE. But it's the exact opposite of being the kind of controversial, lightning rod type player you said you want to lynch.

And I don't know how anyone can feel chk is faking here. His frustration with Nancy feels SUPER genuine.

Probably just a misuse of words then since we p. much agree. Semantics blergh.
I don't think it's faked, but it definitely feels exaggerated to me tonally.

Perhaps I should clarify that when I said "george was more controversial", I meant to say that George has far more interactions to analyze and in a vacuum, any interaction's analysis can be a controversial opinion in itself, so hence the term controversial.
Probably a term that's more accurate is like.... hm... I don't have the term for it actually, help me out.

Active?

Activity doesn't really denote the thing I'm going for though, you can be ultra active yet have completely meaningless interactions.
"Interactive" is okay but again it doesn't properly explain my train of thoughts, urgh... hm...

Even with your clarification on what you mean by "controversial" George feels like a *meh* slot in the sense that none of his interactions are strong spew, no?

In post 2406, nomnomnom wrote:I have Mike as scumlean so far.

Ok, and why is that? You've been pretty vague on your scumread on him.

In post 2234, nomnomnom wrote:I think Auro's slot in this gamestate is scummy considering his character and the fact that it's beneficial for scums to let things go when you have someone like Vecna claiming a massive neg utility role

Could you expand on this?

Like sure - as an exercise, assume George already flipped one way or the other and try sorting his interactions?

Well. What interactions specifically?

In post 2410, Michael Scott wrote:Even with your clarification on what you mean by "controversial" George feels like a *meh* slot in the sense that none of his interactions are strong spew, no?

I said that his interactions with BTE left me with a really bad impression.
Can you go back and check his interactions with the slot? Perhaps you'll see what I mean. I'd show people but the thing is that I feel I'm someone who is VERY bad at explaining my train of thought, and as town it just comes back to eat my ass everytime. Maybe it's better if we do it this way.

Oh nice speaking of AtE that's cute.

You literally posted in game, more than once, about how few fucks were given with how behind you were getting. And how you read but retained nothing. I see you also magically read like 20 pages in six minutes (spoiler alert: you skipped ahead). None of these things make me think you care about this game whatsoever.

Side note FUCK CANCER, I feel for you, and I'm sorry you're going through that.

But your ISO reads like you didn't care for a while.

In post 2411, GeorgeBailey wrote:

In post 2406, nomnomnom wrote:I have Mike as scumlean so far.

Ok, and why is that? You've been pretty vague on your scumread on him.

In post 2234, nomnomnom wrote:I think Auro's slot in this gamestate is scummy considering his character and the fact that it's beneficial for scums to let things go when you have someone like Vecna claiming a massive neg utility role

Could you expand on this?

I haven't been vague at all.
The post where I vote Auro was because I saw him trying to initiate a wagon on BTE without rhyme or reason then completely giving it up, which feels really awkward for a townie to do, and there's nothing that struck me as town ever since.

Can we make "it comes back to eat my ass" a quotable?

In post 2416, nomnomnom wrote:

In post 2411, GeorgeBailey wrote:

In post 2406, nomnomnom wrote:I have Mike as scumlean so far.

Ok, and why is that? You've been pretty vague on your scumread on him.

In post 2234, nomnomnom wrote:I think Auro's slot in this gamestate is scummy considering his character and the fact that it's beneficial for scums to let things go when you have someone like Vecna claiming a massive neg utility role

Could you expand on this?

I haven't been vague at all.
The post where I vote Auro was because I saw him trying to initiate a wagon on BTE without rhyme or reason then completely giving it up, which feels really awkward for a townie to do, and there's nothing that struck me as town ever since.

What about chronos who's done pretty much the same thing?

You're already misquoting it RCE.

In post 2415, chkflip wrote:Oh nice speaking of AtE that's cute.

You literally posted in game, more than once, about how few fucks were given with how behind you were getting. And how you read but retained nothing. I see you also magically read like 20 pages in six minutes (spoiler alert: you skipped ahead). None of these things make me think you care about this game whatsoever.

Side note FUCK CANCER, I feel for you, and I'm sorry you're going through that.

But your ISO reads like you didn't care for a while.

I did not skip any page, I just skimmed and noted what jumped on my eyes.
There were a lot of 1v1 pages and those I happily skipped. These only become relevant at the later stages of the game imo.

pedit: feel free lol
ppedit: Chronos has had strong stances and made a few cases which shows there's a solving agenda to him, so I'm inclined to think Chronos is town.
Auro doesn't have the same conviction going on, which I found scummy.

In post 2419, chkflip wrote:You're already misquoting it RCE.

That's my favorite part.

In post 1599, GeorgeBailey wrote:I'm glad Vecna started posting recently, since they finally showed how their role is beneficial to Town.

As for current vote, I don't think RCE is particularly scummy right now. They're a lot better than Mechanic right now

I'm feeling good on BTE.

VOTE: BooneyToonsExpert

Yeah I see people bringing this up as a shitty vote.

I mean, Mechanic's replacement was doing a lot better, and I was slightly scumleaning BTE.

I thought I'd join their wagon. And then I got a barbed thing. I hope it doesn't kill me lmao.

In post 2422, GeorgeBailey wrote:

In post 1599, GeorgeBailey wrote:I'm glad Vecna started posting recently, since they finally showed how their role is beneficial to Town.

As for current vote, I don't think RCE is particularly scummy right now. They're a lot better than Mechanic right now

I'm feeling good on BTE.

VOTE: BooneyToonsExpert

Yeah I see people bringing this up as a shitty vote.

I mean, Mechanic's replacement was doing a lot better, and I was slightly scumleaning BTE.

I thought I'd join their wagon. And then I got a barbed thing. I hope it doesn't kill me lmao.

This is exactly this kind of post that makes me think you're scum.

Nom made a character judgment on me that as town, I tend to push wagons with a lot of conviction and don't easily move off them.

While she's partially correct, that's not the mode I'm in D1 without a strong scumread myself. I've blatantly been moving between different wagons without thinking too much, and haven't really presented much conviction for any of them - note that I wasn't really casing people, I just threw a couple of reasons and tried to get people to wagon.

She ignored that I said I nearly got mislynched along similar lines before in the same hydra account.

She also doesn't seem too interested in judging how I play scum.