Silent Star 3: Royalty

team rocket queen · Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:17 am

In post 2399, Hopkirk wrote:Scum!gypyx keeping doing it would be because it kept working. He got no pressure until like yesterday.

you think scum!gypyx would think, 'implying i am about to do something and then not doing it will continue to ward off votes indefinitely'?

Hopkirk · Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:18 am

it reminds me of another player who spent 21 days avoiding the thread (with the mod not prodding them for 6 day absences contributing to this) as scum. It's definitely something I've seen scum do. Obviously town too, but scum!gypyx has a positive incentive to do it while town!gypyx would just be choosing to be anti-town.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:20 am

In post 2400, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2399, Hopkirk wrote:Scum!gypyx keeping doing it would be because it kept working. He got no pressure until like yesterday.
you think scum!gypyx would think, 'implying i am about to do something and then not doing it will continue to ward off votes indefinitely'?

it's worked so far. scum!gypyx would imply that we've not been pushing the best wagons over the game

team rocket queen · Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:28 am

In post 2401, Hopkirk wrote:it reminds me of another player who spent 21 days avoiding the thread (with the mod not prodding them for 6 day absences contributing to this) as scum. It's definitely something I've seen scum do. Obviously town too, but scum!gypyx has a positive incentive to do it while town!gypyx would just be choosing to be anti-town.

do you have a link you can show me? i have seen a lot of mafia avoid the thread forever, and i have seen a good number of mafia avoid the thread forever and promise future content, but i have not seen any mafia repeatedly return to the thread and say things like 'okay here i am catchup time' and not catchup and then days later 'sorry for absence again here are some shotgun reads' and just not do that either. like it feels to me that it's intentionally drawing attention to both the absence and the not doing the thing they say they are about to do before disappearing. it doesn't seem like town behaviour to me either,

In post 2402, Hopkirk wrote:it's worked so far. scum!gypyx would imply that we've not been pushing the best wagons over the game

scum!gypyx would assumedly have partners? why would scum!gypyx imply that none of wagons were on one of them?

team rocket queen · Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:30 am

In post 2402, Hopkirk wrote:we

and also i guess as a side question to all of this, how much of your current push on gypyx is survivalism and how much is possible connection you see between isis and gypyx? like why now instead of earlier for you, when this has been true of gypyx for a long time, other than there are votes on you and there are also votes on gypyx and the deadline looms

team rocket queen · Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:32 am

In post 2404, team rocket queen wrote:survivalism

which is correct regardless of alignment, maybe this does not make sense to ask,

Hopkirk · Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:47 am

In post 2403, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2401, Hopkirk wrote:it reminds me of another player who spent 21 days avoiding the thread (with the mod not prodding them for 6 day absences contributing to this) as scum. It's definitely something I've seen scum do. Obviously town too, but scum!gypyx has a positive incentive to do it while town!gypyx would just be choosing to be anti-town.
do you have a link you can show me? i have seen a lot of mafia avoid the thread forever, and i have seen a good number of mafia avoid the thread forever and promise future content, but i have not seen any mafia repeatedly return to the thread and say things like 'okay here i am catchup time' and not catchup and then days later 'sorry for absence again here are some shotgun reads' and just not do that either. like it feels to me that it's intentionally drawing attention to both the absence and the not doing the thing they say they are about to do before disappearing. it doesn't seem like town behaviour to me either,

In post 2402, Hopkirk wrote:it's worked so far. scum!gypyx would imply that we've not been pushing the best wagons over the game
scum!gypyx would assumedly have partners? why would scum!gypyx imply that none of wagons were on one of them?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p9968036

It took them 13 days and 5 promises of 'I'm catching up now/tomorrow' followed by later repetitions of this.

This post specifically is explaining their mindset (as scum) as to why they didn't catch up until then - TLDR = pressure to catch up and look really towny (makes sense in this context where a lot of people are heavily TR tbh): https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p9968036

so yeah, mafia avoiding the thread while repeatedly saying 'i'm gonna catchup now/soon'

scum Gypyx would make the people who've been pushed (the deceased TGP, Skitter30/dunn/myself) look better as scum being happy to lurk there would mean they're finer with the direction the game is in and don't have partners they'd be trying to save.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:53 am

In post 2404, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2402, Hopkirk wrote:we
and also i guess as a side question to all of this, how much of your current push on gypyx is survivalism and how much is possible connection you see between isis and gypyx? like why now instead of earlier for you, when this has been true of gypyx for a long time, other than there are votes on you and there are also votes on gypyx and the deadline looms

you're missing out a little bit of policy.

a little survivalism because there's not

really

enough time for much to change right now so I don't have time to go through Pooky/Isis/Skitter30 and try to develop those reads at this point.

mostly because they're in my POE, there's other votes on them, and some stuff pinged me more on a quick reread

like Skitter30 is slightly higher in my scumlist right now, but I really need to review that scumlist and Gypyx has never left my POE and I'm generally happy voting anyone in my POE (pretty sure i say multiple times in death curse this is how i approach things)

eseentially its a wagon that's doable on someone in my POE, with some more scummy pings that've cropped up more recently, so i'm good with this

team rocket queen · Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:14 am

In post 2406, Hopkirk wrote:viewtopic.php?p=9968036&user_select%5B%5D=28560#p9968036

thankyou.

it kinda feels like hopkirk may be frustrated that he was getting pushed instead of gypyx; in emitgbsmod i hammered someone in the middle of the day because there were also a lot of votes on someone else who i had a strong power role read on and bingle as mafia was very frustrated that i was not pushed for the hammer and hopkirk feels somewhat similar to that here, but this could possibly be explained by the recent game experience he mentioned, and hopkirk at least seems to want to be playing, so,

VOTE: gypyx

also,

In post 2377, team rocket queen wrote:i feel that we shouldn't let this go to plurality.

team rocket queen · Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:34 am

e-2

unofficial votecount

Spoiler:

Dunnstral · Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:20 am

In post 2377, team rocket queen wrote:i feel that we shouldn't let this go to plurality.

I don't get it, why not

Dunnstral · Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:21 am

In post 2387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i will be awake before deadline

leaning gypx over hopk

will sheep jessie shamelessly at this point

In post 2392, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok here

VOTE: gypyx

open to changing to dunnstral or sheeping a better plan if something better comes up.

Why say you'll sheep Jessie then decide on your vote anyway on your own shortly after

So if Jessie had voted hopkirk, you would have switched?

Gypyx · Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:23 am

So these are mostly gut feelings, made in like 10 mins, i just wanna say stuff

Flea Tweet
Pooky Gloria Ydrasse Infinity
Isis dunn
*null point*
Jessie skitter
Hopkirk

Also, strategic lurking is a strat i don't like, i avoid doing that as much as possible, why would scum!me even do that more than town me, i'm here to play a game (at least that's what i would've prefered :/) not go "content soon i swear* for a whole week while i'm perfectly able to play the game

gtg wanted to say more stuff will do later

Dunnstral · Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:25 am

I don't understand how people can be townreading pooky.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:31 am

i can change my vote dunn

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:32 am

i literally said in my post id rather elim gyp than hopk.

Dunnstral · Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:33 am

Yeah but before that you were acting like you were sheeping jessie

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:33 am

In post 2413, Dunnstral wrote:I don't understand how people can be townreading pooky.

i dont understand how any1 townreads you either.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:34 am

In post 2416, Dunnstral wrote:Yeah but before that you were acting like you were sheeping jessie

its literally in the same post

Hopkirk · Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:34 am

Who else would you sheep Jessie onto

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:36 am

In post 2302, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:deadline in 17 hours ill be around

I'd prefer Dunn to Gyp but I'll take Gyp if Dunn isn't available.

I don't want to flip Hop or Skitter.

Gloria-Jessie r my harder TRs

Flea - Ydra are my less hard TRs.

I miss Tweetie and Isis I dunno where they went.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:38 am

That's not helpful because it's clearly out of date. Can you update that since you just said you would sheep Jessie onto hopkirk but that days you wouldn't.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:38 am

id be ok sheeping her on gyp or infi

i prefer dunn

others id have to think about the case.

Hopkirk · Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:39 am

Would you sheep a vote from Jessie onto Isis or Skitter30, ignoring Jessie's current reads and imaging a last minute 'hey y'all I cracked it' from Jessie

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:39 am

sheeping her on hopkirk is pointless because she doesnt need my vote to kill him and i dont think hes scum.