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[Prism]

I don't really like the current gamestate. My opinion, for better or for worse, is being completely discarded. Bork/Petapan are celebrating camaraderie without realizing they're celebrating not knowing what "at least one is scum" implies.

I'm pretty convinced at this point that playing into it is intentional on petapan's part to shut me out, and I actually think bork is more town for it. My approach has to differ drastically.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What Pooky said there is probably true but it is also unproductive

If you're in Uzbekistan then at least try to learn the language, or at least drink the beer

Your referral to that Vax is actually another one of my problems this game

mate

if i didnt learn russian how could i be drinking with them?

[unwnd]

Use your body language idk start playing charades

[fferyllt]

If you acknowledge that I at least have reasons to think what I think about Prism, that should mean something?

It does mean something or I wouldn't have asked. I still stand by what I just said; I don't think "seems like they believe what they say" or their tone under pressure is a really high bar to hit as scum. I don't consider myself a good scum player and feel like I hit all those tonal marks in IS pretty handily.

That's not what got you my townread in IS though. Not even close.

[petapan]

I don't really like the current gamestate. My opinion, for better or for worse, is being completely discarded. Bork/Petapan are celebrating camaraderie without realizing they're celebrating not knowing what "at least one is scum" implies.

I'm pretty convinced at this point that playing into it is intentional on petapan's part to shut me out, and I actually think bork is more town for it. My approach has to differ drastically.

is "celebrating camaraderie" equivalent to me agreeing with one post he made about how arguing with you is tedious?

[Prism]

Are you really so eager to get into another pedantic argument with me over nothing, peta?

[petapan]

a quick scan of his iso shows that he has mostly held me at arm's length aside from one post where he says i look good on the page where unwnd joined the game and i unvoted (i feel like that page is pretty rote but w/e)

this is a pretty egregious mischaracterization of how we've interacted

[Cabd]

Yeah no can we fucking not.

Where is ben?

[Cabd]

Where is elements?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It feels like half of the game missed getting on the train at the last stop.

[fferyllt]

Look, all.

My good friend Syr is many things.

But his primary weakness as scum, the entry in the binder that has been there since the beginning of my mafia career, practically? It's only a few words, but they've never been wrong.

Scum-Syr Model: "Leans into shitposting/memes early, runs out of stamina, grouses once he runs out of steam"

I know this is like... an anticlimactic tell from the metabinder. But I'm burning it and it's 100% and I am going to throw that page of the binder a funeral with copious amounts of liquor this weekend.

The only thing that doesn't fit with Rift-Syr meta is that his posting was always minimal and I kept on keeping on when he was out of steam.

Regardless of alignment.

It followed when we were cult leader in Majiffy's abomination of a bastard game. It followed when we were SK in Nati's micro. And it ALWAYS followed in our town games, unless I called on him late game for the perfect memes. 98% of the posting was always me.

He's the best emotional support in the universe in our hydra chat<3.

are you saying you think the loss of motivation is a nulltell?

I'd like for Cabd to speak to the Trust Fund games.

This is a thing

[Cabd]

I am stuck in a data center on my phone. Sooooo yeah, later tonight.

[fferyllt]

it can wait til tomorrow. I'm ~indeterminate timeframe~ from a fade.

[petapan]

Are you really so eager to get into another pedantic argument with me over nothing, peta?

so now that's the tack you take? i don't think it's pedantic to disagree with your description of the current gamestate, when what you're saying is seriously flawed. you attempt to paint a portrait of my scumplay in this game as a conspiracy revolving around you. we are heading into outrageous territory, where apparently i am buddying up to bork-town who scumreads you while a significant chunk of my effort has been to not getting him to 1v1 you. you grow further detached from reality the longer this goes on.


or are you trying to scare me off from arguing? thinking i'll get conflict averse?

[petapan]

Yeah no can we fucking not.

Where is ben?

i know you and 10 other players in this game are sick of this shit but that post was legitimately scummy to me

[unwnd]

It's only been a couple of minutes but

I just feel like If I stand back from (Prism), that I could be letting something slip through my fingers. Something tells me that he knows himself very well and would use any beneficiary to gain the momentum in an argument but

There are little sprinkles of sincerity that give me doubt. I totally agree with Prism in that belief that maybe you're just not being interpreted correctly and it really sucks when you're not. I resonate with that feeliing, and I have too much of a heart to not. I hate the current state of the game and I think that it desperately needs to change. The fact he spoilered those responses to me really felt it was seeping into a personal matter, and I could tell he's pretty tired from everything too. Maybe a bit stubborn as well. So with all that said, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't offer something elsewhere. I think I'm going to give up the ghost on Prism for now and attempt to see his actions in a different light from this point forward, because I strongly believe in that idea of a spectator sport going on and it's making me a little irritable. Irritable in the fashion that I feel like my efforts and everyone else's efforts are just being laughed at.

UNVOTE:

[Cabd]

Yeah no can we fucking not.

Where is ben?

i know you and 10 other players in this game are sick of this shit but that post was legitimately scummy to me

No like I get it, but if you want to honestly sell me on it, try engaging me and the others and selling to us. You and prism are never gonna convince each other that you're scum.


In fact, let me go all sales trope and be all "sell me this pen" by "Sell me on Prism being buddies with unwnd"

Same deal goes to prism on uwnd-peta, btw.

[Cabd]

"I get it" being that I buy that you are scumreading or need to scumread from your position. Not that I endorse this product and or service.

If it were a gladiate I'd shoot peta in the face, probably.

[unwnd]

No no I dug that you were asking those questions about the unknowns

Keep doing that, I wasn't even apart of this Russian train bar fight initially and I don't want our energy to be exasperated on each other

[Prism]

Same deal goes to prism on uwnd-peta, btw.

I'm not doing a preflip, unwnd scumreading my style/posting was fine and fully what I expected from him as town. My "Eh maybe it's NAI actually" came from remembering that being wrong actually helps when you're scum repping in.

Syr wasn't great and was inactive but I'm not going on a wild preflip goose chase.

[Cabd]

Cool then once we flip unwnd day two can be a gladiate or fucking whatever between you two if you really insist.


Sigh.

[unwnd]

Do you think that me dying as green will change anything

Why not start here, I don't get why you're back on just kill me

[Prism]

Cool then once we flip unwnd day two can be a gladiate or fucking whatever between you two if you really insist.

Things aren't so easy. The only leverage you have over me here is the wagon on me. I'm more than fine stalling: I have enough ideas to become more effective this game, and a lot of them involve voices currently absent.

[petapan]

In fact, let me go all sales trope and be all "sell me this pen" by "Sell me on Prism being buddies with unwnd"

i don't think that's likely at all, think syr's wagon hop points to anti-aligned.

but, okay, point taken. i won't take this into another shitfest.

i will just say that prism:

1. has grossly mischaracterized the interactions between me and bork to make it seem like we are acting more closely than we actually are
2. used this to fuel into a "woe is me" LAMIST-y post
3. is using increasingly contorted logic to justify me being scum
4. tried to call me pedantic and scare me off with the prospect of tedium when I said he was mischaracterizing things rather than defend a fairly simple statement

none of this will convince you, probably! but it's fairly simple stuff! i just want this on the record b/c in my mind his stuff just went from "unreasonable" to "actually scummy". and i mean if unwnd is red like you're hoping then i'm probably never voting him and this is a waste but i can't play like that's a guaranteed thing

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Prism