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In post 2396, Andante wrote:DATISI WELCOME BACK!!!! Ceph is mafia, we're voing him out, then I'm leaving and bam town wins. gg easy

In post 2400, Andante wrote:Ceph, what's your read on fire?

In post 2402, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2400, Andante wrote:Ceph, what's your read on fire?

probably town

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

In post 2404, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

In post 2403, Andante wrote:

In post 2402, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2400, Andante wrote:Ceph, what's your read on fire?

probably town

what makes fire town

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

In post 2405, Andante wrote:

In post 2404, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

who would yall have killed to achieve that? Dunn?

In post 2406, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2403, Andante wrote:

In post 2402, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2400, Andante wrote:Ceph, what's your read on fire?

probably town

what makes fire town

their posts :3

they are scumhunting have had nuanced thoughts and i dont think have ever made a post that made me suspicious

In post 2408, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2405, Andante wrote:

In post 2404, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

who would yall have killed to achieve that? Dunn?

i can't even think of a kill that wouldn't probably result in that outcome

In post 2407, Datisi wrote:

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

i've seen some asspull reads in my time but this takes the cake

In post 2409, Andante wrote:so if fire's posts make fire town, whose posts make them scum?

In post 2410, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2408, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2405, Andante wrote:

In post 2404, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

who would yall have killed to achieve that? Dunn?

i can't even think of a kill that wouldn't probably result in that outcome

hm datisi is scum isn't he

In post 2409, Andante wrote:0 suspicious posts to you? that sounds odd

In post 2413, Andante wrote:

In post 2410, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2408, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2405, Andante wrote:

In post 2404, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2399, Andante wrote:Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

who would yall have killed to achieve that? Dunn?

i can't even think of a kill that wouldn't probably result in that outcome

hm datisi is scum isn't he

I thought I was scum? so here I am TRing my partner?

In post 2412, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2409, Andante wrote:so if fire's posts make fire town, whose posts make them scum?

[looks at vote]

feels like you could figure this one out on your own

In post 2414, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2409, Andante wrote:0 suspicious posts to you? that sounds odd

shrug

town or scum, theres no denying he is cute

In post 2269, Bell wrote:

In post 2263, Dunnstral wrote:At the start of my neighborhood after the end of day 1 I say that I want to vote Andante, Enchant, and Malakittens.

Datisi says they also suspect Andante and ask about my read Enchant.

Ew. Would datisi make such an obvious mistake though?

In post 2278, Cephrir wrote:anyone have a read on whether scum are happy with the gamestate or scared to do anything

yeah me neither

In post 2420, Andante wrote:this is gonna be luke 2.0.... We sr luke when mala is scum, we sr datisi when Dunn is scum...

In post 2416, Andante wrote:

In post 2412, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2409, Andante wrote:so if fire's posts make fire town, whose posts make them scum?

[looks at vote]

feels like you could figure this one out on your own

well I know you're voting me, I wanna know what specific posts you SR. you can't just go "everything you post is bad!!!" I want specific stuff. let's go.

(Pooky, whenever I'm near 200 please let me know lol I feel like I'll be hitting it here)

In post 1999, Cephrir wrote:

In post 1992, Ginngie wrote:yes Andante did post their townread and thoughts on Ceph. Haven't really had a back and forth about it because I was focusing more on Bell today than anything else really.

Good I suppose. Did this happen before or after bell proposed?

In post 2097, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2062, Datisi wrote:VOTE: andante

going from "my partner is scum!! i will attempt to leave!!" during the time THEY WERE TOLD they cannot leave, into "i really tr my partner now!!!" is lmao

yeah i dont like it like i said earlier andante might be leaning too hard on her personality there i think the whole thing might have been a performance

still want an answer from either of them to my question about when the towncase on me was posted in their pt and let's also add why it isn't in the thread

In post 2098, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2064, Andante wrote:

In post 2002, mykonian wrote:

In post 2001, Malakittens wrote:why do you think enchant is town

hard ask

Both in the neighbourhood and the threat he's been relatively straightforward, I'd say. Survivalistic and adding little, but not scummy. I think the posts that are there are decently transparent.

Alternatively, if he's scum, we do have to make some assumptions of somehow quite premediated play? Which doesn't sound like enchant at all here.


Fuck it, even Bell doesn't believe in this, and he set it up.

So you were convinced Enchant was town, yet left enchant anyways for bell? See, to me.. this feels like you're scum. Enchant joined me in joking about leaving, and you know that town enchant probaby would leave for lols, so you jumped on the chance to get a new partner... you needed enchant to survive the first phase, then first chance you get, you're all "ok must leave you before you leave me!!!" especially after you were all "enchant is town!!" like, it makes 0 sense to me, to leave someone you're calling town, for someone you're not voicing a read on... unless there's scum motivations behind it.

i think there is also town motivation to stop being with a partner who is going to kill you whether by impulsive leave or by votes and it may not originally have been apparent to mykonian that he was signing up for that

In post 2108, Cephrir wrote:actually no i don't need to sit on it anymore unless ginngie/andante are both scum which they aren't

what i told fire was, if andante fails to produce her town case on me (and just allows bell to kill me), she's scum

i mentioned this in the thread so that if i died and fire showed up in the thread saying cephrir said this, no one would have to wonder if he was making it up

i really dont understand why this case wasnt posted in the thread if indeed andante wanted to protect me. atp im forced to at least wonder if, whether she finished it before the proposal or not, she wants to protest my mislim while preserving it as an option

this is why i keep asking when it was posted in the pt. i wanted to know if andante decided to let me die despite her alleged read of me or would have made an earnest effort to save me if there was more time

In post 2156, Cephrir wrote:i am surprised that andante is not interacting with my recent content. idk what i expected but it wasn't nothing

In post 2167, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2159, Andante wrote:

In post 2156, Cephrir wrote:i am surprised that andante is not interacting with my recent content. idk what i expected but it wasn't nothing

yeah, I just saw it, and was like, mmk sure let me find my "case" in the PT but like, me outing it is just gonna be met with "THAT'S NOT A CASE!!!"

So to basically summarize what I said in the PT yesterday:

Ceph's recent "I don't trust myself with my andante read, I give that to fire" I can definitely see town!Ceph being like that, cause he just pocketed me in CONTROL, where he was maf, I was town, and what he did was just talk me into my wrong reads, and out of my right reads, I've been absent from too much of this game though to really test that here, so that's not a super reliable way to read him.

if you pull up the Cephrir ISO, at the beginning, like 272-280ish he had a LOT of back to back posts, and I usually see town do that. When I questioned someone about their reads, Cephrir called something out, (Ginngie quoted part of it) I really like that, felt like Ceph was actively reading/engaging and trying to find maf.

don't be so concerned with perception i have shitty reasons all the time too

In post 2211, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2173, Bell wrote:VOTE: Datasi
VOTE: Andante

strangely, i find myself approximately here

In post 2366, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2303, Ginngie wrote:Well i'd rather that happen this phase than in final dance

like i said I dont trust you with a 10 foot pole in the final dance

It's the literal voting when you can't, leaving when you cant, being a veteran of dance games and yet you do those actions repeatedly.

It leaves a very sour taste and makes me believe you would mess up the final dance by having your emotions manipulated.

Seriously you're worse than Enchant when it comes to yolo leaving and to think I'd risk pissing you off as mafia after Datisi could make a grandslam case of me pocketing you is absurd.

If this was a Town/Scum pairing Andante, and I've gotten you to say that you think we'll win this together and shit; why would I poke the bloody bear, especially after(if I was scum) losing a scumbuddy.

So just bloody cool it.

P-edit: This auto leaving bullshit is exactly what I mean.

kinda wild that andante hasn't left yet just in general

In post 2367, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2306, Andante wrote:maf had a chance to kill, they didn’t. maf is comfortable with the way this is going, NO ONE has voiced suspicion of ceph or fire recently, there’s a scum in therr and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was ceph. I want them out

For Sure Town Cephrir

the erratic behavior is normal but i feel like it's typically more telegraphed and like, not random.org

In post 2371, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2342, Andante wrote:

In post 2339, fireisredsir wrote:why does us not interacting much mean there's a scum in us

i think most dance partners aren't interacting that much in thread

I mean, scum has no incentive to actually read their partner, or actually voice "hey I don't tr my partner" cause scum needs everyone to fully believe their partner is town.... like if I were scum here, me yelling "GINNGIE NOT TOWN!!!" in no way helps here.. cause we both die if voted out... Dunn is talking about Datisi, I like that, I TR Dunn. You and ceph... are not talking like at all... like earlier ceph just going "I trust fire with my andante read" like, that implies ceph TRs you, but I haven't seen a whole lot from ceph about why you're town...

if you've seen much from me about why anyone is anything, then i must be sleep-posting

In post 2372, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2347, Andante wrote:if Ginngie really wants to play this "hold me to it, I'm leaving in 4 IRL days" game... that's probably scum indicative lmao

??? no it's not

In post 2374, Cephrir wrote:

In post 2353, Andante wrote:instead of actually wasting my time trying to find maf

shouldn't you want to push your reads if you're expecting to imminently die. it's only 'wasting time' if your only goal with scumhunting is to get townread, no?

VOTE: andante

In post 2419, Datisi wrote:

In post 2278, Cephrir wrote:anyone have a read on whether scum are happy with the gamestate or scared to do anything

yeah me neither

ceph, how much time did you spend thinking before you made this post?