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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:54 am
by humaneatingmonkey
koopa do you remember what i told you about being subtle
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:54 am
by Gamma Emerald
Et tu, MathBlade?
I feel like I’ve definitely broken out of that mold more recently.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:54 am
by koopashell
hem - please read back my ISO and look for the quote with Large words from FL and give me your thoughts on it.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:55 am
by humaneatingmonkey
can you quote no time to read back
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:57 am
by koopashell
In post 2114, koopashell wrote: In post 208, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roden
and Italian are the two that
I've sniffed some scum energy on
thus far. Too early to tell if that's accurate or not, because at least with Italian I've seen a few townie energy auras coming off of em.
In post 651, Flavor Leaf wrote:it was more i felt it at the time, then stopped feeling it. the more you talk, the more i actually start to scum read Roden again, though.
Mainly because the more you talk the more I'm getting a feeling you might be town who's just looking at the game in black and white.
I get my reads through direct interaction.
Otherwise it's mainly gamestate reads from the perspective I have at the time I give the read.
Roden was all gamestate reads at the time since I hadn't interacted with them.
Scum manipulate gamestate, so by looking at my past gamestate reads in the future, I can look to see where scum were manipulating things as the days go on.
these 2 posts
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:59 am
by humaneatingmonkey
it's scummy, i agree with you
haven't you noticed i had FL as a consistent scumread of mine since early D1?
but there are valid doubts to that, im sure i already conveyed that too
although I'm willing to give Gamma a chance. he'll be caught up soon I think. we still have time.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:00 am
by Malakittens
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:02 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Mala keeps ignoring me btw all i need is some transparency in thought and apparently that's a luxury around here
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:05 am
by koopashell
She did give it the other day - which is why people like NK15 and I flipped on her.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:05 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i think if you're town, koopa, you're either being encouraged by the scum or being set-up to have wrong legacy reads (since whoever you'll push isn't happening — especially if it's me)
nk15 could be scum here
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:06 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 2408, koopashell wrote:She did give it the other day - which is why people like NK15 and I flipped on her.
i missed it then
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:07 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i'll skim for evidence later but i think that's a valid theory
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:10 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2283, koopashell wrote: In post 2281, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 2278, koopashell wrote:Imagine being wolfread for updating your reads in real time based on new posts.
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this NK15.
You know this is not the primary reason I wolfread NK15, can you actually take some time to read the replies I'm posting here?
NK15 is limbait in all his games. You need better if he's actually showing solvy mindset.
This is a weird take. Sure he’s not very charismatic but I think he’s good at avoiding rope as town.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2287, koopashell wrote:He has a weird playstyle. That doesn't make him wolf.
Case closed. When he was pushed he kept posting normally. He did not shrink back. Like come the fuck on guys - this is so lazy. NK15 plays different so he is easy to eliminate - his wolf games are very subdued and he is not subdued here.
How come this applies to NK15 but not FL?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:14 am
by koopashell
One thing I will now explain about my play now that I can sit down and post this:
Some pushes I will make to eliminate possibilities. Rather than miseliminate - I will push someone I think has potential to towntell under pressure - such as Mala. Such as Flavor Leaf. Etc.
I will pursue wild theories sometimes to see reactions.
I am doing this with the intent of narrowing possible worlds. Rather than push a miselimination and require a flip to do this, I deduce it via social interaction. See what I did there
I think many down the line miseliminations can be prevented this way- such as JV, who might have potentially entered a gamestate where they looked bad off recent stuff but since they established themselves town on day 1 it helps prevent it.
Day 1 should be a "brainstorm for wolf team" day - where theories go out and go wild.
I also believe in being generous with townreads on players who are actively pushing solvy content on day 1 - if they are wolves, they are high spew targets.
I'd like to hear more from Roden Kitty and Mala regarding their overall view of the game at some point soon.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:15 am
by koopashell
In post 2413, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2287, koopashell wrote:He has a weird playstyle. That doesn't make him wolf.
Case closed. When he was pushed he kept posting normally. He did not shrink back. Like come the fuck on guys - this is so lazy. NK15 plays different so he is easy to eliminate - his wolf games are very subdued and he is not subdued here.
How come this applies to NK15 but not FL?
I dont wolfread FL for playstyle.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:16 am
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah, let’s note koopa refuses to refer to me by name. Seems a bit fucked up, no?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:17 am
by koopashell
Mala AtE did make me believe it was genuine and from town - but that only carries you so far and if she continues to shitpost instead of solve I think she should get chopped.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:18 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Gamma is an FL alt confirmed
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:18 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2415, koopashell wrote: In post 2413, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2287, koopashell wrote:He has a weird playstyle. That doesn't make him wolf.
Case closed. When he was pushed he kept posting normally. He did not shrink back. Like come the fuck on guys - this is so lazy. NK15 plays different so he is easy to eliminate - his wolf games are very subdued and he is not subdued here.
How come this applies to NK15 but not FL?
I dont wolfread FL for playstyle.
It really seems like you do! You’re calling him a wolf for not explaining his Roden take, when it’s been established he doesn’t do that as town.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:18 am
by koopashell
I am referring to FL because they are reasons pertaining to FL - you can try to explain what you think progression wise he was thinking but I'm not going to label things he said as things you did. If you havent noticed I've referenced you when speaking of your slot in general
Why do you have concern for this though?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:20 am
by JacksonVirgo
In post 2414, koopashell wrote:One thing I will now explain about my play now that I can sit down and post this:
Some pushes I will make to eliminate possibilities. Rather than miseliminate - I will push someone I think has potential to towntell under pressure - such as Mala. Such as Flavor Leaf. Etc.
I will pursue wild theories sometimes to see reactions.
I am doing this with the intent of narrowing possible worlds. Rather than push a miselimination and require a flip to do this, I deduce it via social interaction. See what I did there ;)
I think many down the line miseliminations can be prevented this way- such as JV, who might have potentially entered a gamestate where they looked bad off recent stuff but since they established themselves town on day 1 it helps prevent it.
Day 1 should be a "brainstorm for wolf team" day - where theories go out and go wild.
I also believe in being generous with townreads on players who are actively pushing solvy content on day 1 - if they are wolves, they are high spew targets.
I'd like to hear more from Roden Kitty and Mala regarding their overall view of the game at some point soon.
I would again be okay if you didn't, once again, contradict yourself from past conversations. You did not push me to prevent a mis-elimination on me, you said yourself that you were tunnelled on me. You wouldn't have said that, nor say that you faked a meta-dive on me without explaining that you did so to try and gauge me not push me for an elimination.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:20 am
by koopashell
In post 2419, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2415, koopashell wrote: In post 2413, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 2287, koopashell wrote:He has a weird playstyle. That doesn't make him wolf.
Case closed. When he was pushed he kept posting normally. He did not shrink back. Like come the fuck on guys - this is so lazy. NK15 plays different so he is easy to eliminate - his wolf games are very subdued and he is not subdued here.
How come this applies to NK15 but not FL?
I dont wolfread FL for playstyle.
It really seems like you do! You’re calling him a wolf for not explaining his Roden take, when it’s been established he doesn’t do that as town.
He was simply asked to quote at least 1 post that backed up his claims.
Could you give me an ordered list of reads for me?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:21 am
by JacksonVirgo
You, in one shot, just removed all the pressure you would ever make with your slot as well. Nicely done
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:22 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2316, humaneatingmonkey wrote: In post 2312, Malakittens wrote: In post 2302, humaneatingmonkey wrote:hey i'm really swamped
let's not rush an elim.
Andres you can catch up, we have time.
game-advancing content: Mala avoided our engagement, and didn't answer my question about their FL townread satisfactory. This is scum, and I don't know what happened that I'm the only one in here.
bite me
a lot of it is tone + gut + knowing FL iRL
so I'm really sorry that it's not satisfactory to you, but it's good enough for me to go on with D1.
okay. now show us.
Btw I’ve seen Mala posting like this as town before, partly my fault in that past case but nevertheless this detachment from her at least is within her town range