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In post 2399, Titus wrote:Who would you like to discuss Math? I offered you an inivitation to highlight scum on your wagon if not me. I'm willing to discuss any read in the game.

Asuaka what’s your read on them?

And I disagree on hypo doc but whatever

um scum know who they shot

so if someone claims to protect the person they shot

that's the doc for the scum to shoot tonight

so hypo doc is just super dumb lol

Oh Math, what did your slot pick btw? No one can come along behind you and it's protown to tell us what must be in the game.

In post 2402, Titus wrote:Oh Math, what did your slot pick btw? No one can come along behind you and it's protown to tell us what must be in the game.

Vengeful

Oh right I derped thanks

In post 2400, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2399, Titus wrote:Who would you like to discuss Math? I offered you an inivitation to highlight scum on your wagon if not me. I'm willing to discuss any read in the game.

Asuaka what’s your read on them?

And I disagree on hypo doc but whatever

Town based on 1.04 to 1.05. Scum with HEM don't bail on a counter wagon to scum to try and start another generally.

In post 2404, Titus wrote:

In post 2400, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2399, Titus wrote:Who would you like to discuss Math? I offered you an inivitation to highlight scum on your wagon if not me. I'm willing to discuss any read in the game.

Asuaka what’s your read on them?

And I disagree on hypo doc but whatever

Town based on 1.04 to 1.05. Scum with HEM don't bail on a counter wagon to scum to try and start another generally.

That’s just not true

They bail if they know theirs isn’t picking up steam

Doubly so when that scum is an early voter on your partner.

HQ and Gamma reads

In post 2406, Titus wrote:Doubly so when that scum is an early voter on your partner.

HQ and Gamma reads

Town and town

HQ scum doesn’t flip to TR me when they’d get an easy free read for a sheep
Gamma town I don’t see any scumminess in their posts

I don’t get the first sentence

Yeah i rescind what I said about rb/jk/doc claims. Hypo doc is definitely bad, rb claiming is probably okay (possibly depends who they blocked/if their block target is gonna get limmed anyway), jailkeeper depends.

In post 2408, MathBlade wrote:I don’t get the first sentence

Asuka doesn't abandon a large counterwagon on HEM. Doubly so when that counterwagon is the main person voting her partner. It lessens the discredit potential by having a smaller wagon.

I want more on Gamma. That's a nothing burger read.

If I am wrong on your wagon Math, the only slot that really makes sense is StD.

Talk about your read there please.

You’re spamming the thread every three seconds

It’s difficult for anyone to form reads

I don’t know how to explain it but gamma I don’t think brazenly contradicts true meta that anyone can verify as scum.

I think they genuinely disagree with that.

And no. My StD read is fuckin elim me

I think if you quit posting for 24 hrs you see you’re wrong

But as long as you scream I am scum

I have to defend myself

It’s becoming insanely toxic

Let the thread breathe

In post 2411, Titus wrote:If I am wrong on your wagon Math, the only slot that really makes sense is StD.

Talk about your read there please.

what about implosion?

he literally unvoted HEM and was preparing to vote for mathblade..

I'm not screaming right now. I'm trying to have a conversation with you to try and reset my own way. I'm not getting much to work with though.

You gave me a "nothing scummy" in Gamma's posts. While I agree he's town, that doesn't help me sort you.
I gave you a read on your wagon supposing you were town, and you basically told me to fuck off.
You HQ read was essentially that she defended you.
Your Ausuka thoughts were only to say my interpretation could be wrong.

I need something to show you're hunting or to have a conversation. There's VCA data for you to use. Please show something.

In post 2414, Aristeia wrote:

In post 2411, Titus wrote:If I am wrong on your wagon Math, the only slot that really makes sense is StD.

Talk about your read there please.

what about implosion?

he literally unvoted HEM and was preparing to vote for mathblade..

I'm open to it if there's a good reason to TR Mathblade.

Implosion/StD actually might be a thing if Math is town.

You really are though

No one has voted me in the past what 6-7 hours?

You’ve given me gooo after hoop which I have answered and no one new has voted me in the longest time

You’re just repeating I am scum with some new boundary to give you something.

Each time I answer a question it’s a new one

You’re not listening to anyone who TRs me and just say there is no good reason.

It’s a lose if I engage with you and a lose if I do.

In post 2414, Aristeia wrote:

In post 2411, Titus wrote:If I am wrong on your wagon Math, the only slot that really makes sense is StD.

Talk about your read there please.

what about implosion?

he literally unvoted HEM and was preparing to vote for mathblade..

You know what sure

VOTE: implosion

I legit do not care anymore

In post 2393, Titus wrote:

In post 2391, Roden wrote:

In post 2383, Titus wrote:

In post 2379, Roden wrote:Check you with what? Cop?

Right

Ah, well he most likely isn't Cop, or a PR at all tbh since he's at the bottom of the draft. But yeah I agree that he always checks you in that situation.

Why did you think you were shot?

In a bit of arrogance, because my solve is right at least on Mathblade and Ari or my only two other compromise slots contain scum. Most likely my theory is just right and scum know I am a dog with a bone.

Do you believe that if one of them is scum, they always shoot you last night? What are the chances of WIFOM there? Does it make much sense to keep you alive to make you doubt your read on them?

In post 2419, Roden wrote:

In post 2393, Titus wrote:

In post 2391, Roden wrote:

In post 2383, Titus wrote:

In post 2379, Roden wrote:Check you with what? Cop?

Right

Ah, well he most likely isn't Cop, or a PR at all tbh since he's at the bottom of the draft. But yeah I agree that he always checks you in that situation.

Why did you think you were shot?

In a bit of arrogance, because my solve is right at least on Mathblade and Ari or my only two other compromise slots contain scum. Most likely my theory is just right and scum know I am a dog with a bone.

Do you believe that if one of them is scum, they always shoot you last night? What are the chances of WIFOM there? Does it make much sense to keep you alive to make you doubt your read on them?

If Math is scum, yes. Math knows that I will demand more than he is capable of as scum. Is there a possibility he's town. Yes. But given he matches his scum meta and can't support any of his reads, I don't see why to change. The policy lim threat on me is a bonus.

I want to see some dialogue from him if he's town. I don’t see how a conversation is "hoop after hoop". Town!Math would love engaging on VCA but just isn't giving it to me. Instead he whines that I'm spamming.

I'm trying to give him every opportunity to explain reads in a conversational fashion. A readwall with reasons works too if he'd rather keep the post count down.

I just need something.

In fact, if I give Math what he wants, that actually makes it easier to lim him because people won't view his lack of content as stress induced and have less sympathy for him. Posting a simple idea repeatedly causes people to entrench. If I was going to eliminate him without listening, I'd shut up after making my initial point. However, my initial point doesn't give him much to defend himself with and results in a tunnel fight. So I'm giving him every chance to put forth any intelligent, reasoned and non-OMGUS reads before I tune out.

In post 2414, Aristeia wrote:

In post 2411, Titus wrote:If I am wrong on your wagon Math, the only slot that really makes sense is StD.

Talk about your read there please.

what about implosion?

he literally unvoted HEM and was preparing to vote for mathblade..

And then I made it clear that I was going to go back to HEM.

Like I said today (granted, I didn't say this at the time iirc) I would have preferred the day go on for like, 24 more hours or so. I also really don't think I'd go through the trouble of that loud a waffle as scum when it's clear HEM had no staying power, and was a goon - what would be my motivation? It'd just be torpedoing my own game.

In post 2292, Roden wrote:Math I think there's a good chance you're town here, but yes you were absolutely very scummy yesterday and a bit at Day start today

if we're not gonna go after math today I wanna look at Wallflower
her vote on HEM looks like it could be a bus vote and she's been absent this day phase so far

In post 1898, implosion wrote:

Unvote

for now

I do sort of see Titus's point about Math's vote on HEM maybe being a tiebreaker to why a Math vote would be preferable to a HEM vote. And like, to be completely frank, I am having a really hard time focusing on any other slots with the way Math is playing. Him claiming I've given no committal reads is absolute bullshit, I've given committal scumreads on HEM and Enchant and committal townreads on like half the player list both by my own logic and by saying I agreed w Ari's townblock.

this unvote post felt like you were getting ready to vote flip to mathblade