League of Legends (Old)

[Ranmaru]

Wow, hey guys. Something really neat I noticed. I got this new laptop to play league, and it played fine at 60 fps. But later on, it was always at 30fps.

I was like wtf. Did I download something that is taking up... some resources or something?

I came upon this one suggestion, and that was to keep your power settings at maximum or high performance. I was always putting the power settings at battery saver.

I tried it, not expecting it to work...

and then BAM. 60fps. WOW

I just wanted to show how shocked and happy I was at same time. :3

[Brandi]

Janna is not on the support list and she is the champion with the highest overall win% in the game. So disagree strongly with whoever compiled this.

Sona is good.
J4 is good.
Karthus can GTFO.
Rumble is very situational.

Janna has the highest winrate, but she has a ban rate of less than 1%
Thresh is almost always banned, and I'm willing to bet if he wasn't banned and Janna was the winrates would almost be reversed, if not Thresh ending with higher than Janna's current winrate.

But Janna definitely deserves Tier 1 or Tier 2.
Tier S going to Thresh I agree with, however.

[BROseidon]

Tier lists are relevant only in the sense that investing time in an easier champ gets better results faster (until the champ gets nerfed).

That said, Zyra should also be S-tier. She's the strongest support right now, imo.

[Brandi]

She's definitely good, and annoying, but nothing in her kit compares to Thresh's shield. He is capable of making much bigger plays than other supports.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Janna is amazing because she pretty much completely negates someone's mistake.

Still not the best because someone could do the exact thing that got them into trouble again... and she is probably more defensive than even soraka.

Wait, why the hell is alistar tier 2 in that?

Anyway, that list is competitive so probably looking at 5v5 stuff and solo queue just isn't being factored in.

Pedit: Zyra's pretty good. And thresh's lantern needs co-ordination. You could put it down to grab souls and your adc says "Okay" and takes it back and you've kinda screwed yourself a little bit. And that's a simple thing - big plays probably means complicated plays and without good co-ordination complicated plays fail.

Also without jungler interference he's a bit weak in lane.

[Brandi]

in plat+ pretty much everyone clicks the lantern and everyone has decent coordination. There are some exceptions but I've only seen major problems in low gold and below.
Also a good jungler will always have interference, even MORE so with a Thresh. It enables a lot of ganking opportunities that wouldn't exist otherwise.

[BROseidon]

Thresh has a lot of play making abilities with lantern+hook, but Zyra's e and ult are actually just broken. Her ability to control space in fights is unparalleled.

[Brandi]

her area denial is great no doubt, but she's also as flimsy as a piece of paper. Thresh can get very tanky without building any tanky items. Just having sightstone and GP/10 is more powerful on him than other supports.

[Glork]

I mean, Zyra has weaknesses, but her strengths outweigh them by quite a bit right now, especially in a team comp with a good front line.

Zyra has great hard initiate/disengage, a stupidly powerful ult, and the abilty to create "minions" for early lane phase, dives, etc. IMO she's really not far behind Thresh/Janna.

[Brandi]

She's not far behind Thresh, no, but she is behind him. Compared to Janna though? Janna has strong counter-initiate, Zyra has strong initiate. It's more even with the two of them.

[Jahudo]

I want to try Zyra support but how do you keep your adc from being poked down in the laning phase?

[Brandi]

punch your adc and tell him to stop taking harass

but no really zyra has no sustain for the lane so if you play her you have to do a lot of harassing and get the enemy low
I mean you can use your e to stop the enemy advancing onto you and properly placing your plants so that they get slowed/damaged is important, but
If the enemy is out harassing you and you are losing trades then you're kind of screwed without some jungler help

[mykonian]

throw plants in bush. Auto opposing support, or adc if that's closer. Better even if you use your root because that means your plants hit for longer. Rinse, repeat if their support doesn't go away. If they do, yay, go in their bush. That's now your bush. Don't let anyone in. Poke the adc now. If he really feels so brave to actually move in on your adc now blow him up together because he'll be horribly overextended.

In all seriousness though, zyra is good at bush control. Plants are annoying and they hurt quite a bit. She also pokes rather well, because her autos have ridiculous range. That all while providing a root that's easy to hit if someone moves towards you.

[RadiantCowbells]

Janna, while good, is neglected in tournaments because she's useless in a 2v1 lane; she's defensive, not offensive. This also hinders her late game because she doesn't really help your team close out games.

Zyra on the other hand is amazing in a 2v1 lane, and also dominates 2v2 lanes, but she doesn't scale as well because her kit only has utility on defense, just like Janna. Her shortcoming in being played aggressively are actually the reason she isn't usually played mid anymore, whereas you can afford to have your support be more situational.

[Ankamius]

I can't remember the last time I fought against a Tristana.

I hadn't fought a Corki in close to a year either until these recent buffs suddenly made him godlike. It's about time his W's insane mana cost was reduced.

[pickemgenius]

what revert back to the 100 mana cost w?

when his w and ult mana costs were buffed that is when corki became super good(his kit is op). If it gets nerfed it should be going to 75.

[Ankamius]

I meant it's about time his W's insane cost was reduced. It was just too expensive to justify using both it and Q pretty much at all.

[pickemgenius]

got it.

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah, basically don't bother with stuff like that, because 98% of the time, it doesn't matter who the "statistically best" champs are. Find champs you like and are good at, and play them. *shrug*

I completely agree with this, but with every patch, every minute change, some champions become "better", because this game is far too complex to bring perfect balance; there will always be at least X champion that is better than Y champion.
Roles kind of counteract this so it's all good, but for example, Lee Sin is a "statistically" better jungler than say, Sejuani.

Wow, hey guys. Something really neat I noticed. I got this new laptop to play league, and it played fine at 60 fps. But later on, it was always at 30fps.

I was like wtf. Did I download something that is taking up... some resources or something?

I came upon this one suggestion, and that was to keep your power settings at maximum or high performance. I was always putting the power settings at battery saver.

I tried it, not expecting it to work...

and then BAM. 60fps. WOW

I just wanted to show how shocked and happy I was at same time. :3

I can't find this setting on my Mac

[talah]

Hang on, Macs just have one button - press it.

oooooohhh sorry wrong thread :s

[Glork]

Yeah, basically don't bother with stuff like that, because 98% of the time, it doesn't matter who the "statistically best" champs are. Find champs you like and are good at, and play them. *shrug*

I completely agree with this, but with every patch, every minute change, some champions become "better", because this game is far too complex to bring perfect balance; there will always be at least X champion that is better than Y champion.

This is actually a really good reason to just learn and commit to the champs you like. If you're really good/comfortable with, say, 3 different top laners, then you'll always get to play someone you like, and chances are at least one of them will be strong, even with the ebb and flow of constant balance changes.

[quadz08]

^

[TheIrishPope]

Yeah, I'm not against it or anything
In other news, Warwick in the jungle works surprisingly well

[Saki]

unless you don't have your ult

[TheIrishPope]

Oh yeah, you can't gank without your ulti (although our Mundo and their Garen were battling solo top and ganked him level 3 which won us the game thanks to Mundo snowballing)