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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:05 pm
by Serene
In post 2423, Bulbazak wrote: In post 2422, Ankamius wrote:Ok reads regarding ProHawk's death:
Doc Holliday (Cephrir) is town
Broseidon is scum
Calcifer is probably town
Dramonic is slightly scummy
Explain these.
-Bulba
The only explanation is that Ankamius is scum.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:22 pm
by Ankamius
Axe the BROseidon read; a closer look made the point null.
Doc Holliday blatantly showed he didn't really read very well; shows more town than scum.
Calcifer went along with the plan at first (notably after two people condemned it), then hopped right off. Looks really awkward from a scum standpoint and I don't see one being so obvious about it.
Dramonic's vote on Calcifer feels off. Minor point.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:25 pm
by KingCrabd
So do you doubt the mason claim then? I feel like a broken record here yeesh.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:27 pm
by BulbaFenix
In post 2426, Ankamius wrote:
Doc Holliday blatantly showed he didn't really read very well; shows more town than scum.
Then again, Doc did get replaced. What about Cephrir makes you think scum, or was it all about how Doc did not have that much time to devote to this game?
In post 2426, Ankamius wrote:
Calcifer went along with the plan at first (notably after two people condemned it), then hopped right off. Looks really awkward from a scum standpoint and I don't see one being so obvious about it.
Why do you think Calcifer was obvious about it? I don't think so. Wouldn't scum want to hop off of a bad idea, especially after town voiced disapproval for it?
Then why bring it up, especially since Dramonic had claimed mason, which should have influenced your reads?
-Bulba
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:35 pm
by Ankamius
I should have made myself more clear the first time. Those aren't my total reads on the players, just what direction the reads went with it.
I didn't say Cephrir was scum...? I was talking specifically about the first post, by the way.
Calcifer posted that right smack in the middle of the condemnation of the plan. I think scum would have been more cautious of following it so easily once it had started.
Partially because I forgot, and partially because YOLO
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:11 pm
by Calcifer
VOTE: BulbaFenix.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:03 pm
by Shadi1337
Well Dramonic claimed to be dead weight only R1; so I'm interested if his approach is gonna change this round.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:48 pm
by Metal Sonic
why bulba?
no i didnt read
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:17 am
by The Goat
I ISOed, and I would like someone to explain it to me, as well.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:30 am
by DOMO
In post 2428, BulbaFenix wrote:Then why bring it up, especially since Dramonic had claimed mason, which should have influenced your reads?
Isn't this hydra suggesting serene is scum? Shouldn't that effect your read on dramonic?
Bulba has a point though. Ank is saying dramonic is "slightly scummy", yet he hardly mentions serene in his entire ISO. Serene is way scummier than dramonic, if you're going to point the finger at one of the masons, it's gonna be serene. Very strange to call dramonic scummy without giving any consideration whatsoever to serene.
vote ankamius
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:40 am
by Zdenek
I don't believe that what we've seen from Fenix today is representative of someone desperate to tango with Serene.
They are lying scum.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:05 am
by Zdenek
DOMO, why are you ignoring BulbaFenix?
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:06 am
by Zdenek
I mean their slip.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:07 am
by DOMO
I think bulbafenix is scum too, I'm willing to put my vote back there. I'm finding it hard to find a winning scum strategy after fakeclaiming mason on day one. Serene and dram are masons. If anyone wants to argue otherwise then please, by all means, show us how they can expect to win and I might entertain the idea. For now they are confirmed town and should be treated as such, as much as that pains me after the way serene has been playing.
pedit - bulba's slip?
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:12 am
by Zdenek
In post 2388, Zdenek wrote:Rift wrote:You disbelieve the mason claim?
In post 2373, BulbaFenix wrote:Personally, I do not. Bulba and I have been going back and forth on this in our conversations.
...
-Fenix
In post 2387, BulbaFenix wrote:Fenix doesn't think that Serene's mason claim is legitimate and thinks that he's scum.
Bingo!
Vote: BulbaFenix
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:13 am
by Zdenek
Followed by the fact that their explanation was completely unsatisfactory.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:14 am
by DOMO
Interesting. When I first read that I thought it made sense, like "personally I do not believe the claim". But yeah on 2nd read that's bad.
vote bulbafenix
either or really
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:21 am
by StubbsKVM
Just popping in to say I will start catching up eventually. Had a terribly busy weekend/week and this thread is moving fast.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:23 am
by Zdenek
Vote BulbaFenix while you're here.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:30 am
by StubbsKVM
I considered it, because it does seem pretty bad. But I'd like to see the context of those quotes before doing so.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:37 am
by Baby Spice
It does look like BulbaFenix is faking reads.
Vote Bulba
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:42 am
by Metal Sonic
what is going on
super fast wagon is suspect
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:45 am
by Cephrir
In post 2441, DOMO wrote:Interesting. When I first read that I thought it made sense, like "personally I do not believe the claim". But yeah on 2nd read that's bad.
vote bulbafenix
either or really
Oh, I get it now. I was thinking this too. You can see how that could have been meant the other way, but that is kind of bad.
Can we get a VC in here?
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:49 am
by Serene
Or it means that BFenix is just a goon, and Ank is the Godfather.
It also means we're getting our shit together.
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:05 am
by DOMO
bulba's "slip" alone is not enough to warrant lynch, it's easy for him to say he also misread that statement. But today he's come in with an immediate reasonless vote for stevie, then said I must be speedlynched if it's it's multiball for being the first to speculate on it, despite the fact it's the assumption most people seem to be working on, serene included. Then he's saying serene is scum, without explaining to us how fakeclaiming mason on day one with a buddy is viable. And he wasn't looking good yesterday.
So this bulba wagon does not have me concerned. He's picking up fast votes because he's scum.