(12): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen, Errantparabola,
randomidget
, Dapper Stranger, Varsoon
Alchemist21
(5): Shiro, Extrapolated Eagle,
Klingoncelt,
Aneninen,
grapes
Shiro (1):
My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm (1):
Alchemist21
Errantparabola (1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop (1): PeregrineV
Not Voting (2): inte, TheWayItEnds
With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
This is where I am sitting right now although I got to admit even with the sk being in the kling wagon I would think at least one more scum would bus. This would point to MOHIS possibly not being scum and someone else from the kling wagon being.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:24 am
by Passionate Storm
@Shiro, It may have been the best kill in a limited pool. Scum must kill within the large town block that lynched Shiro if Dapper is scum. SG and I are usually paranoid of each other. Same with me and Elyse. Killing any of those robs a potential mislynch. TSO usually lurks. Both scum killers decided that town block must die. There was no good kill for DS scum. Take out who will lead your lynch.
As for where DS scumclaimed, the self vote while throwing shade is a scumclaim. The whole fake cop thing after deciding he was the best lynch is fighting to survive after stating he was the best lynch. Then the repeated attempts to out the cop/friendly neighbor (if existing). He revealed he knew I was town as he did this. He's saying we're all stupid but making no effort to sort anyone.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:33 am
by grapes
shiro your reads clearly make no sense
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:37 am
by Shiro
Hmmm
You are making a good lot of sense and it would explain my need for one more scum on kling wagon.
Fine
Vote: Dapper
But alchemist needs to die next. Especially if you are wrong about Dapper.
L-1 if I am not mistaken
P.edit
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:46 am
by Passionate Storm
@Shiro, KC was the encryptor, a role any scumteam desperately wants to save. I would be more inclined to think Alch is SK than groupscum. It doesn't make sense scum would counter group scum with another groupscum. Possible, yes. Likely, no.
But I will think about it during night.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:53 am
by Passionate Storm
If that theory is right, you're not likely group scum as scum would need a not group scum to sheep extensively as they did.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:56 am
by jasonT1981
Official Vote Count
Dapper Stranger
(10): Spider Gwen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, Errantparabola, Alchemist21, My Other Head Is Scum, Aunt Jemina, Varsoon, T S O, Shiro
Passionate Storm
(2): Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle
Errantparabola
(1): PeregrineV
Elyse
(1): Garmr
Shiro
(1): randomidget
Spider Gwen
(1): Aneninen
Not Voting
(4): I Am Innocent, inte, TheWayItEnds, grapes
With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.
Mod Note - From midnight tonight (UK time. So 7pm Eastern) Everyone is on V/LA until the 27th. There will also be a V/LA to all on the 31st from Midnight (7PM Eastern until the 3rd of Jan.
Mery Christmas to you all!
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:58 am
by Passionate Storm
Mod: How will night be handled if there's a hammer?
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:03 am
by jasonT1981
Will open on the 28th. Probably a bit more than the 3 days normal.
↑Shiro wrote:Titus really can you please explai nto me at least why would anyone in their right mind go ahead and kill spiflop after what happened yesterday ?
There are point floating around that scum feel disoriented because their best player Dapper is about to get lynched yet nobody bashes an eyelash at how their kill choice was the worst thing that coul dhappen for dapper.
At the very least point to me how he scum claimed cause I don't see it
I agree, it's an odd kill, but I wouldn't fuss too much over it. The kills in general were odd n1. The important thing to remember is that Spifflop would have been pushing the same things we're pushing today.
I have the third highest postcount in the game, from what I can see, and the two posters ahead of me are both hydras. I have no idea where you get this bizarre idea that I'm a perennial lurker - it's just flat-out wrong.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:08 am
by T S O
UNVOTE:
Hold up.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:12 am
by grapes
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?
I don't understand how you can look at that votecount and think "oh yea I guess scum just decided to powerbus alchemist while klingon is on the chopping block" and not feel like you went wrong somewhere.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:19 am
by T S O
↑Dapper Stranger wrote:Being the best mid game puzzle solver you're going to die tonight if you're town.
I am hoping this doesn't happen, but recognise that it's possible-to-likely.
↑Dapper Stranger wrote:You need to leave a plan of action for when you are wrong today. Unvote, make and post that, and then do whatever you like. I'll happily laugh at you all from the dead thread knowing we still have the overwhelming majority.
I have no problem doing this. It's good practice. I'm still quite confident you're scum, but this covers any pitfalls.
In the event that Jaqen is town, lynch Alchemist tomorrow.
If town, lynch grapes. If grapes is scum, from there, lynch inte. If grapes is also town, along with Alchemist and Jaqen, then Jaqen's scumteam is probably the diagram you should be following.
If scum, lynch inte. If inte's town, lynch TWIE. If inte's scum, do not lynch TWIE, but rather lynch IAI.
In the event that Jaqen's scum, so likely, this diagram is useless.
↑Dapper Stranger wrote:Scum is this
Titus
Gwen
Sorry EE, but you too. I even pointed this out to TSO with the scum buddying scum thing. You and Titus were all over each other like a horny married couple and you'd just gotten home from a 2 year deployment. Then I pointed it out and you guys were at each other's throats again.
Varsoon isn't right
Neither is TWIE
And I disagree with you on Grmr as well. He's not playing like Grmr.
That's where I'm at. You should ask Fresh where he stands.
I will take this into account, but I can't see myself changing my mind until you flip. I'm sorry that it takes that, but it does. I also disagree with the concept of Titus-Gwen as a team completely. It's not scum-scum. I'll put my reputation on it.
↑Dapper Stranger wrote:Oh- and nobody write off TSO because his sig is true.
↑T S O wrote:Also, for what it's worth - I think scum feel a bit disjointed today as opposed to yesterday, and I think that this could be due to the removal of daychat.
Wait. What? Are you
serious?
Have you ever even
READ A SCUM TOPIC?!!
Who are you and what have you done to TSO?
For the most part, people forget daychat even exists and the topic is only ever really used at night when they're talking about their night actions. Some with larger than normal egos also use them as their personal game diary. That's it. This is a horrible post.
I have been ripped apart by scum using daychat, I'm not sure I've ever lost as scum when I've had daychat. It's extremely potent.
↑Dapper Stranger wrote:So TSO, you ignoring me now or is that list for when you're wrong on us forthcoming?
I got off the computer because I had commitments.
↑Elyse wrote:@TSO
I mostly concur with your reads list except I'm reading randomidget as scum and I don't get the null town on My Other Head is Scum since they're probably the scummiest lurker IMO.
The Inte/TWIE point is a good one but I'm not really interested in looking at it soon. I'm hoping that will sort itself out.
Interesting to me how Dapper is turning on Eagle...probably a last ditch effort to make him look good before he flips or something.
I saw a read that Klingon made on MOHIS and it made me think they were probably town. I disagree with this.
I played with both of them enough to know tha tthis is not town them. Like TSO just reember greater idea mafia. How Vedith played there, It is a carbon copy.
TSO Will you help me with alchemist tommrow if I help wioth dapper here ?
I didn't particularly analyse his scumplay there; his dayvig basically allowed him to escape my radar for my brief life during that game.
I am 95% sure that I will vote Alchemist tomorrow. I cannot give any guarantees, but it's quite likely.
Garmr - town by ISO
I Am Innocent - null
inte - null/lean scum, AJ has a point on inte scum
PeregrineV - lean scum, why sign up if you're not going to play
Dapper Stranger - scum
Spider Gwen - town, mason buddy, friendly neighbor, cop, cop check target, just all around obvtown
Aunt Jemina - strong lean town, first to vote Klingon high push there
TheWayItEnds - town
T S O - town
Shiro - townbeard or scum, gun to head townbeard, we both have issues w Shiro's recent posting
My Other Head Is Scum - lean scum, posts such as 260 560 561 843 and 864
Alchemist21 - lean scum
Extrapolated Eagle - scum
Aneninen - null, lean alignment changer, not to thrilled about the fake clotid claim
randomidget - scum, for posts like no reasons I am scum
Errantparabola - lean town, EE voted him w no suspicion today
Elyse - Town
grapes - Strong scum lean for 224, 1004, 1948
Varsoon - Lean town needs more effort
Disagree with random, MOHIS and TWIE.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:20 am
by T S O
VOTE: Dapper Stranger
I could care less whether you get a claim, because it won't matter to anyone, least of all me. Kill it.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:20 am
by T S O
If you're scum, I'm sorry, but you must realise how textbook-scum your play on d1 was.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:21 am
by T S O
*town.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:23 am
by T S O
Dear protective role - I saw your crumb. Nicely done.
I hate to be selfish, but I'd really love to stay alive for tomorrow, so I'm going to request your services for tonight.
↑Shiro wrote:Titus really can you please explai nto me at least why would anyone in their right mind go ahead and kill spiflop after what happened yesterday ?
There are point floating around that scum feel disoriented because their best player Dapper is about to get lynched yet nobody bashes an eyelash at how their kill choice was the worst thing that coul dhappen for dapper.
At the very least point to me how he scum claimed cause I don't see it
I agree, it's an odd kill, but I wouldn't fuss too much over it. The kills in general were odd n1. The important thing to remember is that Spifflop would have been pushing the same things we're pushing today.
How is this a shared sentiment. Spifflop is the obvious kill because he was town as fuck. How does killing the most town person in the game reflect more onto someone than another. Thats an equal opportunity kill.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:29 am
by T S O
Do you feel this line of questioning is productive? I don't. There are many times that NKA is useful - far more than most people think. This, however, isn't one of them.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:30 am
by T S O
So, TWIE, any chance of an opinion on DS/reads in general? Because a lurker purge is imminent, and I'm sure you'd like to escape it.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:40 am
by grapes
If we're purging lurkers my moneys on the mohis/i am innocent/inte/randomidget crowd
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?
I don't understand how you can look at that votecount and think "oh yea I guess scum just decided to powerbus alchemist while klingon is on the chopping block" and not feel like you went wrong somewhere.
Klings death was imminent and spifflop was hot on lynching alchemist next day. Last moment distancing. It took a very long while for kling to jump board.
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?
I don't understand how you can look at that votecount and think "oh yea I guess scum just decided to powerbus alchemist while klingon is on the chopping block" and not feel like you went wrong somewhere.
Klings death was imminent and spifflop was hot on lynching alchemist next day. Last moment distancing. It took a very long while for kling to jump board.
why do your distancing on the counterwagon when that's sure to be the first thing town looks at the next day?