Aneninen wrote:
1. It was lazy. You just jumped on the wagon you thought it had been moving. Also, you finished reading but didn't draw conclusions. Yeah, sounds legit.
2. Beetlejuice IS a tell. I repeat: I may have been wrong about it, but the fact that you mentioned later that you'd been ninja-ed, THAT made me think that you'd got nervous.
3. Sorry, misspelled. 1362, not 1263.
4. Persivul was town, therefore he could Chainsaw no one. Got it?
5. So, you translated my drunkpost only for fun? (According to your answer to Copper which took place later.) Huh.
6. I may have phrased it poorly, but I said this: if you flip scum, we may have an all-town Neighbourhood, because you hinted that "why not Masons" thing.
7. Huh? Are you saying that you were anti-town but not scummy?
+1 Since I was missing for a long time Yesterday, yeah, there could be points having pointed out by others. Do you really think it makes my case invalid?
In post 2415, Ircher wrote:What's no counter got to do with anything? Besides, there were counters throughout the day. In particular, Kill and Brawl, both of whom were town. Finally, the wagon flipped town so this post seems ex post facto rather than genuine.
By the time the Persivul-wagon gained momentum there had been no counters
matching
his wagon.
I understand your point of view, though, I would find a post like that scummy too if it had come from a player who had produced
nothing else
.
In post 2419, drmyshottyizsik wrote:*checks in*
so zakk and titus and copper all still breathing?
ok.
*checks out*
What do you think of Nosferatu?
In post 2420, Lowell wrote:@shaz, you got pretty excited for a minute there when you thought someone had claimed something. Anything else you're interested in?
Hmmmmmmmmmm...
1. I jumped on a wagon I thought scumslipped. And in the third fornight, I didn't finish reading up with a catchup post with conclusions either. Go figure.
2. I don't see how my reaction is indicative of nervousness at all.
3. I don't see how I was gauging the momentum for your wagon there. I said I was fine with it.
4. If only there were words for how terrible that argument is. Abhorrent. Schlecht. Mal. плохой. It basically scumpaints every argument as to why a person is scum with another person.
5. yup.
6. no, not at all. I'm not in a neighborhood. I know nothing about any neighborhoods other than the ones outed. How does me flipping scum have anything to do with having an all-town neighborhood?
7. Anti-town and scummy are two different kinds of behaviour. Once again see game shop mafia. Over 50 pages of pure anti-town banter right smack in the middle that lasted for about 3 days. Neither of the exponents flipped scum.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:43 am
by copper223
@Anen
I agree with Nos about your fourth point, since when is town less likely to make obvious blunders (after the fact) compared to scum? You are not considering the scum mindset at all (other than calling her incompetent I guess), if you then segued with: look how she uses pie-in-the-face here to try to get town-cred (and that's why she wrote that chainsaw post), or look how Persi. was right about her and she desperately needed to silence him, then ok, but like you put it it makes very little sense to scum read her for it and I have to question your motivation.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:46 am
by Titus
In post 2403, Shaziro wrote:That seemed more like a reaction test to me. Interesting.
Why did it seem like a reaction test to you?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:48 am
by Titus
In post 2405, Shaziro wrote:I just can't see Titus ever asking people for their opinions of her actions if she actually did them. I don't think she needs the validation and I think she would have better, non-self-outing methods of finding out.
Who said anything on validation? Suggesting information can generate reads.
What do you think I am getting from my reaction test?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:52 am
by Titus
@Anen, Pressure =/= lynch you. I personally refused to vote you for a reason, I think you're town.
I am coming towards Short/Zakk/Plus Hood/Plus Shaizro (depends on answers).
In post 2403, Shaziro wrote:That seemed more like a reaction test to me. Interesting.
Why did it seem like a reaction test to you?
It looked like one to me too.
It's the way you worded it, asking for how people would react if you dix xxxx.
If it is, don't out reaction tests. That generally ruins them.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:05 am
by Shaziro
In post 2420, Lowell wrote:
@shaz, you got pretty excited for a minute there when you thought someone had claimed something. Anything else you're interested in?
It's "getting excited" to ask if a claim happened when somebody says it did? I had the same reaction when I saw people talking about neighbors, but I was able to look and see the origin of that back in the thread. I couldn't find where Titus had claimed a vig shot, so I asked for confirmation.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:13 am
by Shaziro
In post 2428, Titus wrote:
Why did it seem like a reaction test to you?
As Ircher said, the way you phrased it, asking what their reaction would be. It seemed to be more of a "Hey, this is just me getting a feel for what people are thinking of me while also waiting to see who runs with the assumption" kind of thing.
In post 2429, Titus wrote:
Who said anything on validation? Suggesting information can generate reads.
What do you think I am getting from my reaction test?
I think you were waiting for somebody to take that as an assumption that you were the vigilante and act differently towards you because of it, which is why I said "Interesting" about it being assumed that you were claiming it there.
In post 2433, Titus wrote:
If it is, don't out reaction tests. That generally ruins them.
I didn't say anything about it at the time, just like I didn't with the fakehammer earlier. Is it still too early to call it a reaction test when it was that long ago? I don't think you're really going to get any more reactions to it, and if it was a reaction test doesn't it benefit town to have them now know what it was and therefore be able to look at the reactions with that knowledge in mind?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:30 am
by zakk
In post 2420, Lowell wrote:@zakk, your longer "OMG that wasn't mindless chatter" OMGUS post looks even more like mindless chatter than the previous one did.
if this is your only response
then you can hang by the neck until dead
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:32 am
by zakk
i just noticed that both shotty and titus are trying to paint me as scum with the other one
like really guys let me help you distance from each other harder
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:35 am
by Titus
@Shaziro, I am pretty sure the fake hammer ran its course.
It was the one thing that made me doubt a Persivul lynch. No one seemed to be paying attention to the game.
Also, do you think I am the vig Shaziro?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:35 am
by Shaziro
No.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:36 am
by Titus
In post 2437, zakk wrote:i just noticed that both shotty and titus are trying to paint me as scum with the other one
like really guys let me help you distance from each other harder
Hahaha. Hi. The thread called. It wants you to stop revising history.
Two reasons, the first of which is that I don't feel like you'd claim like that. The second is for ~reasons~ that would be bad for town to be outed atm.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:42 am
by Titus
Ok, you can be town. I figured your second ~reasons~ when you acted that way. Just had to figure out town ~reasons~ or scum ~reasons~ scum would have panicked.
I don't mind evening up the ~reasons~.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:43 am
by Titus
Obviously not vig.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:44 am
by Titus
VOTE: Zakk
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:45 am
by Shaziro
Do you think I messed up your reaction test by mentioning it too early, and if so is that just in this one case or was that too fast in general?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:46 am
by Titus
I'll explain post game.
P.S. The hood is odd.
Join me on Zakk?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:48 am
by Shaziro
My problem with the Zakk vote is that I don't like that Shotty is on it, as I'm not really liking Shotty for town this game.
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:51 am
by Titus
In post 2448, Shaziro wrote:My problem with the Zakk vote is that I don't like that Shotty is on it, as I'm not really liking Shotty for town this game.
They're bussing each other. Scum do that. 100% town wagons on scum rarely happen. Find scum, lynch them. Worry if multiple scumreads get on or a vote is really bad and cannot be a bus.
