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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:00 am
by ChaosOmega
TO BLOCK THE TARGET, NOT THE PEOPLE TARGETING THE TARGET, HOLY SHIT ARC

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:00 am
by TwoFace
In post 2422, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2417, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2415, ArcAngel9 wrote:Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."
learn to read

Variations

Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night.
This variant is also known as Alien.

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Normal Guidelines

A Jailkeeper that simultaneously blocks and protects their target is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.
I did, and this proves YOU are wrong. sorry arc

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:00 am
by MortFeld
Oh wait, Arc is wrong.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:01 am
by MortFeld
So we lynch Toto. But we can do the work today to figure out who the third scum is.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:02 am
by Naomi-Tan
revisting with new data.

Green
ArcAngel9 rep. ThinkBig (confirmed)
ChaosOmega (confirmed)
MortFeld
Lil Uzi Vert
TwoFace
Naomi-Tan (confirmed to me)
rb rep. DeathByWobbuffet, rep. copper223

Lynch pool
Road Kamelot rep. MisaTange
Nero Cain rep. Lohikäärme
Shadow_step rep. Creeps20

Red Confirmed.
Toto

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:02 am
by TwoFace
In post 2419, TwoFace wrote:Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.
Chaos wasn't blocked, toto was.

show me where it says the blocked person can't be investigated by somebody else and that somebody else can't get a result with regards to normal guidelines.

i'll wait cause I don't think you can.

p.edit - yes toto get's lynched today.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:02 am
by Naomi-Tan
In post 2428, MortFeld wrote:So we lynch Toto. But we can do the work today to figure out who the third scum is.
one step ahead of you ;)

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:03 am
by Naomi-Tan
Lets all take a 15m break to review toto's interactions and look at our red pools for possible connections :D

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:03 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toto

Could have sworn it prevents targeting but I guess that's considered too broken for normal games.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:04 am
by ArcAngel9
I read my role pm once again. Let me paraphrase it as I am not allowed to copy and paste it.

Once per night I can target a player to protect them, the target player will not know that they were protected and I will not know who has targetted them.

AND

I also block my target, Causing any attempted actions fail for the current night phase. So if toto was targetted by Chaos, he would have received a message saying, BLOCKED.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:04 am
by TwoFace
In post 2433, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Could have sworn it prevents targeting but I guess that's considered too broken for normal games.
yeah I did as well

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:05 am
by keyenpeydee
Vote Count
VOTE COUNT 2.02

[0] Road Kamelot -
[1] ArcAngel9 -
[L-1]
Toto - ChaosOmega, Road Kamelot, Naomi-Tan, TwoFace, Lil Uzi Vert,
[0] Nero Cain -
[0] rb -
[0] MortFeld -
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[1] ChaosOmega - ArcAngel9,
[0] Shadow_step -

Not Voting
- Toto, Nero Cain, rb, Mortfeld, Shadow_step

MOD NOTES:
Keep everything cool and enjoyable :)

With
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:05 am
by TwoFace
In post 2434, ArcAngel9 wrote:I read my role pm once again. Let me paraphrase it as I am not allowed to copy and paste it.

Once per night I can target a player to protect them, the target player will not know that they were protected and I will not know who has targetted them.

AND

I also block my target, Causing any attempted actions fail for the current night phase. So if toto was targetted by Chaos, he would have received a message saying, BLOCKED.
reading isn't your strong suit

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:05 am
by Road Kamelot
Arc youre reading that wrong. jailkeeper roleblocks the person being jailkept, thats what that block is saying

you can investigate people being jailed jesus christ

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:05 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 2430, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2419, TwoFace wrote:Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.
Chaos wasn't blocked, toto was.

show me where it says the blocked person can't be investigated by somebody else and that somebody else can't get a result with regards to normal guidelines.

i'll wait cause I don't think you can.

p.edit - yes toto get's lynched today.
I read my role again and it says very clearly that targetted player is blocked against all actions both incoming and outgoing.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:05 am
by Naomi-Tan
In post 2386, Shadow_step wrote:How did that cop claim go un fucking CCed then?
UNVOTE:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:06 am
by Naomi-Tan
I don't want the day to end yet. lets use this time while we literally have red in a cage.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:06 am
by TwoFace
In post 2439, ArcAngel9 wrote:both incoming and outgoing.
you're role pm says incoming and outcoming?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 am
by keyenpeydee
I'm not saying nor denying the presence of Jailkeeper in this game, But as far as I know, Jailkeeper PROTECTS the person but Roleblocks it. Thus, the Targeted player is being protected and roleblocked, Not the one who [other player] targets it.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 am
by TwoFace
In post 2412, Shadow_step wrote:
@MOD, will an INVESTIGATIVE attempt on a JK target fail, or not.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 am
by Road Kamelot
t would block an investigation by Toto. not an investigation ON toto
Arc are you listening

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:07 am
by TwoFace
In post 2443, keyenpeydee wrote:
I'm not saying nor denying the presence of Jailkeeper in this game, But as far as I know, Jailkeeper PROTECTS the person but Roleblocks it. Thus, the Targeted player is being protected and roleblocked, Not the one who [other player] targets it.
Thank you

so sorry Arc, chaos could still be legit


Edited to contain the edited information I'm saying - Mod

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:08 am
by Road Kamelot
Oh nvm key confirmed it

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 am
by ArcAngel9
I think we should check with someone who can clear this out. I am on town minds with this.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 am
by TwoFace
In post 2448, ArcAngel9 wrote:I think we should check with someone who can clear this out. I am on town minds with this.
the mod just said you're wrong

who do you want to appeal to next?