Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 3.04

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sheepsaysmeep

(3): Firebringer, Not_Mafia, sheepsaysmeep

Not Voting

(5): Katyusha, Rem, Hopkirk, Flubbernugget, humaneatingmonkey

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

The day 3 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-02-02 16:40:59)

Mod Notes

: Have fun!

[humaneatingmonkey]

Let's have Rem vs N_M vs Flubb vs Hop sorted out before tomorrow in a lynch agenda fashion because it's probably going to be down to Not_Mafia in LYLO if we lynch scum tomorrow.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Oh, I mean Firebringer

[Firebringer]

With way this game is going I would think kats is in LYLO

[Flubbernugget]

I reread Flubber’s iso. It screams scum.

388 is terrible. He scumread UC/NM before that. Both lynchbaity. In 388 he drops both, focusing on scum on his wagon. He drops UC/NM completely after that. Barely mentions them whatsoever. Doesn’t try and interact with them or develop the reads. He also doesn’t take a significant stance on UC either way towards the end of the day. Consistency is off throughout. Tone is off throughout.

After this, he forms new scumreads on HeM, Buj, and me. I don’t like these because they’re me, flipped town, and one of my biggest townreads. Buj is also lynchbaity. HeM and me are arguing heavily at this point. Diverting attention from himself to us helps scum!flubber here. Crucially, he doesn’t make any effort to sort me after that. He mentions me around a dozen times after that. However, this is always talking about me. He doesn’t ask me any questions. The first time he quotes me is over sixty of him posts later. His question is just throwing shade. His next and last question to me is more shade. This isn’t what developing a read on me looks like. It’s opportunism. His entire approach is opportunism without a logical process of reads development.

Flubber’s sheep interactions want me to read sheep next.

If you think that stands, it still only addresses the first 1/3.
I don't think it stands.

*yawn*

Transitioning from rvs reads to real scum reads it natural and I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you would think a little more about what you posted instead of convicting to it.

Saying I've diverted attention from myself is L A U G H A B L E and whatever you're trying to spin it as is 100% guaranteed to be afk timing.

Yes, you've been a tough read, and I was apathetic to trying to compare your citations against Kat's, and it wouldn't have made much sense to start pushing without a solid foundation of what I was going after. The majority of the inactive players haven't been pushed hard by the entirety of the Playlist so this selective scum tell is confbias at best.

I've also never heard of an opportunistic null read. That's a very creative spin, gg?

[Flubbernugget]

Monkey, if you're town you've absolutely fucked any chance of town getting useful information from your flip.

[humaneatingmonkey]

mhm

[humaneatingmonkey]

Let me know your thoughts on how's this gonna go down on D4 and who your scumteam is

[sheepsaysmeep]

hi if im not lynched by tomorrow evening im making nsg find a replacement for me

[sheepsaysmeep]

jkjk have fun making me watch and suffer bye

[humaneatingmonkey]

also can you tell me what useful information were you looking forward from my flip that i absolutely fucked

p-edit: sheep, stay. you're just gonna make it hard for the mod.

[Hopkirk]

I don't get how there'd be debate between Hop/Flubber as Sheep's partner.
I've been attacking/casing Sheep since yesterday. Flubber/Sheep have been mutually ignoring each other all game without explination.

[Hopkirk]

NM is probably town here after looking at games.

[Flubbernugget]

^^this is a perfect example of "I bussed my buddy and my wincon means I have to make sure the gambit pays off"

Monkey, to answer your question, sheep is today's lynch, I would like to see hopkirk tomorrow, and then we'll have to get lucky on a lurker. As far as info you'd give on a flip, you've been considering so many different scum teams today on the vague basis of what "makes sense" that there's no convictions to look at and consider the angle of a genuine push from you.

[Hopkirk]

^^This is a perfect example of 'I've been supporting my buddy all game and need a scapegoat'

Why don't you want Rem tomorrow?

[humaneatingmonkey]

You think it would matter which team I consider today when I'm the only one with PR equity?

[Hopkirk]

PR equity?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm borrowing languages. I just mean that I'm the only kill that makes sense since I crumbed PR and I haven't claimed yet.

[Hopkirk]

Not going to talk about mafia nightkill choices or prs. Was there anything other than that you wanted to discuss?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Yes. I'm yet to be convinced that you are automatically town if you cased sheep today. Why wouldn't you just be bussing? You have controversial opinions such as Rem being locktown and the D1 sheep-interaction is funky. Btw, I know the answer to this but I still want to know your POV.

[Hopkirk]

I cased Sheep and had Sheep as hard scum back when people were mislynching Seph yesterday- not today.

[Hopkirk]

Rem locktown I changed after reading that game, not when prompted and criticised for it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

What's your scum meta? Do you bus?

[Hopkirk]

Plus it wasn't 'locktown' as in 'confirmed town' it was 'locktown today'. Sheep and Flubber were(/are) preferences.

[Hopkirk]

sigh

fine with the lynch, vig i think goes to hopkirk regardless because i dont really like the way he's interacted around ucv and if he's town i need the reevaluation.

definitely have seen scum interact with partner lynches like this, and definitely can see scum interacting with mislynches like this. i dont think hop gets much cred out of this if it greens

{monkey, intern}
{sheep, n_m, moz, seph, rem}
{flubber, serg, bu} - null
{hopkirk, dykdw}

actually looking at this pile i want to see where rem is at again with intern likely being town now

I know hopkirks scum mea. if he was scum with me, he would probably be bussing me rn

UC would say that yes, I would bus.
I'd say, based on the game that made UC make that conclusion, I bus as a last resort. I'd voted my partner when the wagon started building on him, rather than started a wagon on him. This time, I had Sheep as scum before the wagon.