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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:26 am
by Joey_
In post 2422, brassherald wrote:How would we feel about a Joda leader?
No, why do you keep proposing inactive slots? Why dont you trust myself/chara/kokichi/nero?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:28 am
by BuJaber
In post 2422, brassherald wrote:How would we feel about a Joda leader?
I really don't understand your reluctance to host.

Runner up sure it can be joda don't really care.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:28 am
by Chara
In post 2422, brassherald wrote:How would we feel about a Joda leader?
i don't feel great about it. but considering Titus's role in the first round of resolutions, i don't know how much wiggle room there is for scum.

would rather Kokichi and especially Joey. not immensely confident in other townreads. i'm cautious but optimistic about Almost being town. i also wouldn't mind doing it.

pedit: i don't trust Nero. i know you have meta but i don't think meta is 100%, and his approach to Gamma sucks. it could be town Nero who doesn't give a shit or scum Nero who knows he can freely act this way.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:28 am
by brassherald
I don't like being told to just trust people, I would not expect you all to trust me if I were not the IC, I'm not just going to trust you guys, you want someone as a leader, show me why they would be a good leader.

And no to Nero today, my town read on him has slipped big time.

And BuJ, I will take the host, I just messed up my wording.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:29 am
by Joey_
In post 2423, Chara wrote:somehow about the existence of those. whoops. thanks for quoting them.

ok, so you agree with me that as far as red scum candidates go, Gamma is unlikely.
why are you townreading Shazi?

pedit: oh, right. inventor.

and yes, Joda and Gamma being teamed would be quite the gambit.
Tone + some good posts.
Also beyond what id expect a scum slot would go (about his grand dad too)

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:29 am
by Chara
wait, i thought brass was talking about runner up. brass should be leader, i can't see a reason not to be considering how delegates are distributed.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:30 am
by Joey_
In post 2427, Chara wrote:
In post 2422, brassherald wrote:How would we feel about a Joda leader?
i don't feel great about it. but considering Titus's role in the first round of resolutions, i don't know how much wiggle room there is for scum.

would rather Kokichi and especially Joey. not immensely confident in other townreads. i'm cautious but optimistic about Almost being town. i also wouldn't mind doing it.

pedit: i don't trust Nero. i know you have meta but i don't think meta is 100%, and his approach to Gamma sucks. it could be town Nero who doesn't give a shit or scum Nero who knows he can freely act this way.
My meta on nero so far is 100%, and his pushes are always logically flawed

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:31 am
by BuJaber
Joey is the least polarizing and chara is a good choice too

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:31 am
by Chara
In post 2429, Joey_ wrote:Also beyond what id expect a scum slot would go (about his grand dad too)
thanks for the answer. i agree abaout his tone, i was townreading and agreeing with him earlier. what do you think about his reaction to my vote, though?


as for the rl, i'm doing as Shaziro says and taking it for the out of game it is. he's certainly not using it as a reason not to be lynched beyond arguing against activity scumtells. i would do the same if scum with genuine rl commitments with no guilt.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:32 am
by brassherald
Okay, then, let's do Joey.

HEAL: for host: Joey_ x2

HEAL: for host: Brass x2

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:33 am
by Chara
In post 2431, Joey_ wrote:My meta on nero so far is 100%, and his pushes are always logically flawed
well that's something to consider. can you talk about the differences between his town and scumplay? would multiball change anything?

pedit: that's ok with me, i should have mentioned in my last post i'm concerned about Joey reading everything properly, but i am very confident he's town.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:33 am
by Chara
HEAL: Joey
you both get the same list, though.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:35 am
by Joey_
In post 2433, Chara wrote:
In post 2429, Joey_ wrote:Also beyond what id expect a scum slot would go (about his grand dad too)
thanks for the answer. i agree abaout his tone, i was townreading and agreeing with him earlier. what do you think about his reaction to my vote, though?


as for the rl, i'm doing as Shaziro says and taking it for the out of game it is. he's certainly not using it as a reason not to be lynched beyond arguing against activity scumtells. i would do the same if scum with genuine rl commitments with no guilt.
Hm yea i agree about the grand dad arguments used w/o guilt, its also just a reason i added later to further confirm my read on him.

About his reaction about your vote, i think that in a vacuum town reacts much more to being fosed than scum would. Shaz has also weird reads, like he keeps pushing titus for WC and tr her hard even tho titus scumreads him, same for you who sr him and he tr you. Im unsure how AI this is but id say that scum tends not to support/keep tra on ppl who scumreads them for too long

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:38 am
by Chara
to me, the reaction looked like he was hoping i'd reconsider the read and go back to townreading him.

ok, tonight i'm actually going to play on my laptop and look for teams. i said not to be lazy but i am absolutely doing so. :>

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:38 am
by Joey_
In post 2435, Chara wrote:
In post 2431, Joey_ wrote:My meta on nero so far is 100%, and his pushes are always logically flawed
well that's something to consider. can you talk about the differences between his town and scumplay? would multiball change anything?

pedit: that's ok with me, i should have mentioned in my last post i'm concerned about Joey reading everything properly, but i am very confident he's town.
I sincerely doubt it would changes anything since the meta read has nothing to do with his scumhunting or something like that. Nero as scum is being compliant and a bit of a pussy while when hes town hes a pain in the ass, is very active, antagonistic and pushes his own agenda really hard (while being logically flawed)

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:44 am
by Chara
haha. i see why you're so confident.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:45 am
by Joey_
Also Chara, if you are unsure about nero, he still heavily non-team told with the red players, so at worst he would only be an orange possibility

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:45 am
by Shaziro
Ok, I am home post-funeral. I'll be trying to catch up and more thoroughly read the thread. I'm not gonna lie, I thought Maestro saying the votes would be up in X amount of time was a "you have this long to vote for WCL" not a "I'm reserving this spot for a VC", hence my sudden vote on Titus. I can support a Joey runner up, I think, but I would still prefer Titus or Chara.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:47 am
by Chara
i'll look at that tonight too. i'd ask for games but i'm not great at metaing games i'm not in, mostly.

pedit: welcome home, Shaziro! take your time.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:48 am
by Joey_
@Brass : What do you think about leashing Gamma on your slot ?
In one way it forces mafia to either kill Gamma before you (which would help town) or risk killing you and 1vs1'ing gamma the next day. Regardless, it will confirm Gamma's alignement w/o the need to lynch him today.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:49 am
by brassherald
I like it.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:54 am
by Chara
it's not perfect, but he should be there anyway.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:55 am
by Joey_
In post 2446, Chara wrote:it's not perfect, but he should be there anyway.
It's not you are correct, he could also came up with "no result" but it's a better move considering we already fliped a rb'er

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:55 am
by pidgey
HEAL: Joey
Lets do this. I BELIEVE

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:00 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2413, Joey_ wrote:
In post 2402, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2357, Joey_ wrote:@chara the thing is, if gamma’s last red we prevent a night kill everynight
Tinfoil ahoy! Why do you think I'm last red?
Im pretty sure i used “if” as to talk about a hypothetical scenario ;)
In post 2414, Joey_ wrote:Dude gamma calm the fuck down my friend, im actually trying to justify not lynching you today
I don't care if you want to lynch me, but thinking I'm red is pretty tinfoily and I want to know why you don't think my interactions with Dunker disproves that possibility.