In post 2419, Ausuka wrote:heyyyy I'm really bad and need to get to this game. correct me if I'm wrong but nobody has told me why KK was town? feels like loads of ppl TR'd him, and I don't really know why.
reading KK as town because d1 play comprised of him scum-hunting and generating content through aggressive and blunt questioning
even though he was one of the first people on performer wagon nothing pinged me with his reasoning d1 and he was wishy-washy on that read stating he wanted to switch to wavemode
In post 2402, Kublai Khan wrote:You skip Day 1 except to brag about how you're not reading yet. You comment a little bit on things, but you don't actually put your vote anywhere until the last minute.
You've made hard and soft PR claims and then took them back. (Maybe? Sort of?)
You say that the lynchee will flip town (which is easy enough to predict as scum).
You vote JarJarDrinks with the explanation that his reads are political. I ask you to clarify, you refuse and change the topic.
In fact, you link me with JarJarDrinks because I'm "chainsaw defending" him.
Last I checked, chainsaw defending means that as scum I'm attacking you out of the blue because I'm defending a scum-partner. But I told you at the end of Day 1 that I would come after you Day 2, and I did regardless of your actions.
So for all the braggadocio of how awesome you are at manipulating people and at analysis. You've got 2 scum reads (one of which I know for a fact is town), and your analysis is a shitty "he seems scummy". So yeah, congrats. I'm definitely not getting behind you as a town leader. Mission accomplished on that.
Where's you reads on the game? Your promised analysis? You've had no comment on Pine all game? Lalendra? Myloninja13?
Where's your reads list, you day 1 lurker? (3rd time asking)
over-exaggerated, melodramatic and being excessive in this post
think this post is trying to produce a reaction and I TR it
I guess I could VOTE: PP because OMGUS and they haven't really done anything to town read them on.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:23 am
by Pine
Schedule has normalized. Will be catching up this evening.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:52 am
by Hopkirk
Kublai’s engagement feels kind of false. Summary of interactions/mentions of everyone in the game:
Dunn- Townreads based on Dunn pointing out when Android last posted. Doesn’t address the townread again.
Robster- asks a couple of light questions without followup and agrees we probably shouldn’t lynch in the neighbourhood (post Ausuka claim).
Pine- Mentions Pine is active lurking about 6ish times. Doesn’t press Pine on this (like he does Scion). Townreads anyway.
Creature- A bit of doubt over the Creature meta tells. No direct conversation.
Wheme- Doesn’t really mention.
Hopkirk- Excluding this one as it’s me.
Edo/Gamma- doesn’t engage with or even mention respectively.
Ausuka- Scumreads pretty explicitly for most of the game.
Lalendra- Asks two people about their reads on the slot as part of a list of several people he’s asking about.
ETL- No engagement.
Love/Dave/FA- Minor push, doesn’t mention, doesn’t mention.
JarJar- Votes and pushes a bit D1. Isn’t voting him now/slight defence of JJ on push against him.
Android- Mentions once saying people shouldn’t complain about Android/Wave with FL around.
Tex- Townreads. Idk where.
Arc- Includes in one list of active lurkers but not another (the Android/Wave/FL post). Doesn’t really push/mention).
Vax- Doesn’t really mention. Currently voting.
Wave- Defends a lot.
The Rampage- Not sure of KK’s read.
Mylo- Mentions as a lurker a few times.
Scion- Votes and says it was to push Scion. Does not attempt to push other lurkers in the same way. Barely mentions most of the lurkers. One of the things that feels contradictory.
Flavour Leaf- Pushes a lot harder than most lurkers for basically the same thing. Want to lynch FL/calls him a bad player, largely ignores most people who aren’t contributing.
2402 attacking FL is pretty bad in this respect. Tries to discredit FL by saying about FL ‘Where's you reads on the game? Your promised analysis? You've had no comment on Pine all game? Lalendra? Myloninja13?’ which also applies to KK. Hypocritical.
Does not ask the same question to Arc, Android, Mylo etc.
(Dead town)
Almost50- Pushes a bit early on. Mostly abandons/doesn’t follow up (arguably when it became clear people townread A50)
Ousuka- Pushes hard.
Performer- Pushes hard.
Summary: Feels like he’s not actually looking to solve the game and feels kind of self-contradictory. Not engaging deeply. Not following up on stuff. Unclear reads/doesn’t really feel like he’s trying to solve. Feels especially inconsistent in regard to lurkers.
Doesn’t help that his main five pushes are the three dead townies, the IC, and a push on FL that doesn’t fit how KK interacts with other non-contributors. Also doesn’t help he ignores/defends Android/Wave (who I scumread) while pushing every other wagon that happened yesterday.
Note- decided to go through this fully and see what results I got since I noticed earlier he doesn't mention Android, defends Wave, attacks Ousuka/Performer/Ausuka.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:54 am
by Hopkirk
It might just be bad reads, mine weren’t great D1 either, but he seems active but the only pushing he’s done has been on town, a bad push on FL, and basically ignoring most of everyone else. It feels like pushing rather than solving, and it doesn't feel consistent.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:01 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2419, Ausuka wrote:heyyyy I'm really bad and need to get to this game. correct me if I'm wrong but nobody has told me why KK was town? feels like loads of ppl TR'd him, and I don't really know why.
In post 2402, Kublai Khan wrote:You skip Day 1 except to brag about how you're not reading yet. You comment a little bit on things, but you don't actually put your vote anywhere until the last minute.
You've made hard and soft PR claims and then took them back. (Maybe? Sort of?)
You say that the lynchee will flip town (which is easy enough to predict as scum).
You vote JarJarDrinks with the explanation that his reads are political. I ask you to clarify, you refuse and change the topic.
In fact, you link me with JarJarDrinks because I'm "chainsaw defending" him.
Last I checked, chainsaw defending means that as scum I'm attacking you out of the blue because I'm defending a scum-partner. But I told you at the end of Day 1 that I would come after you Day 2, and I did regardless of your actions.
So for all the braggadocio of how awesome you are at manipulating people and at analysis. You've got 2 scum reads (one of which I know for a fact is town), and your analysis is a shitty "he seems scummy". So yeah, congrats. I'm definitely not getting behind you as a town leader. Mission accomplished on that.
Where's you reads on the game? Your promised analysis? You've had no comment on Pine all game? Lalendra? Myloninja13?
Where's your reads list, you day 1 lurker? (3rd time asking)
over-exaggerated, melodramatic and being excessive in this post
think this post is trying to produce a reaction and I TR it
You could say the exact same thing here, and literally just change that T to an S and does the same thing, if not more. This is projecty. However this does make me feel GROB and KK arent scum together.
In post 2415, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I’m wrong on one of JJD/KK, it’s probably KK just being obnoxious town.
bleh post
you seem 100% sure that JJD/KK is scum then you backpeddle with this
Nah. That’s just how I seem. I’m never 100% sure until I am.
I go forward with thinking that I am correct, as it allows me to see the angles. Plus, it makes sense from my perspective, so I have no reason to think I’m incorrect until something comes up, and when it does, my reads adapt.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:05 am
by Flavor Leaf
It allows me to not look over anyone for simple things. I do it everywhere, I’m just more invested here right now is all.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:06 am
by Flavor Leaf
Good work, Hopkirk. Have a town read.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:09 am
by Flavor Leaf
It’s also hilarious that KK had some personal agenda it seemed against low activity’s posters, but once I came in, he seemingly forgot about all the low activity posters. I believe I am no longer a low activity player here.
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