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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:46 am
by Almost50
In post 2423, OkaPoka wrote:just sephiroth who needs to check in?

Scum list:

Top picks:
Mew or Sephiroth
Dark Horse:
Gamma

of course if mew is town here then A50 is shooting up to a top pick. Will probably iso skim later to see if i missed anything.

Anyways happy thanksgiving people.
I'll say this again: Gamma is NOT SCUM (if he is, this is some new play style completely.. like.. it's not even Gamma .. it's someone else)

Why Gamma is no scum: Gamma
knows me well enough
to have clearly seen and deciphered my crumb. Gamma even commented on that particular post (saying he liked how I addressed him in particular). There's no way Gamma didn't see the crumb when I had literally italized or bolded every "G.. S.." bit of it. If he did then I would have been his N1 kill 100% of the time. He also knows the longer I live the harder I am to be lynched as Town and the more chance I'd catch Scum!him.

Finally, I did some VCA when I was rereading the thread and it's almost 99% Mew + Seph are the remaining 2 Scum slots. It's not just who votes whom, but when, why and how other wagons are when they cast that vote (or unvote). Gamma is NOT aligned with DrD and wasn't aggressively seeking a mislynch on D1 either.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:19 pm
by DVa
In post 2423, OkaPoka wrote:Top picks:
Mew or Sephiroth
Dark Horse:
Gamma
j/w but what happened to your thing with PP?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:32 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2426, DVa wrote:
In post 2423, OkaPoka wrote:Top picks:
Mew or Sephiroth
Dark Horse:
Gamma
j/w but what happened to your thing with PP?
I'm probably wrong about my assertions so I've moved on from the idea

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:40 pm
by DVa
In post 2427, OkaPoka wrote:I'm probably wrong about my assertions
Why?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:47 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 2424, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2405, Nako wrote:Mew > kokichi > seph > oka > dva > gamma > pp > ofhrz > a50 > me
It's just Mew > seph > dva for me (also ofrhz was the NK; unless you want to hang her corpse by the neck just to make sure!) :P
Nako prob isnt even reading the game

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:50 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2428, DVa wrote:
In post 2427, OkaPoka wrote:I'm probably wrong about my assertions
Why?
Because I don't feel like I'm right? I dunno. Sometimes in a game, I just realize maybe that I'm wrong and it would be better to work with the team rather than try and fight for new ideas.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:01 pm
by DVa
Well A50 just said that through VCA it is Seph + Mew. Do you look at VCA and see that as a likely scenario?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:09 pm
by OkaPoka
Honestly, my scumreads on them are based on what they are saying/not saying rather than VCA. I can look at VCA, later I guess to revise my theory.

I don't know why town Mew would so quickly turn to AtE'ing and throw the mafia equivalent of a temper tantrum, especially because there were still people who could have bailed him out. I felt like he was trying to guilt me/shame me into supporting him like DDL did.

And ftr there is a difference between calling people out for bad play vs trying to use bad play as a way to be more convincing, if that makes any sense. Calling people out for bad play and voting them is done with the expressed purpose of trying to get them to cooperate with town and doing stuff rather than lurking while Mew was trying to use me being bad as an argument and trying to make me feel bad about it so I would support him, if that makes any sense. One is "utilitarian" while the other is just manipulation.

Then again there are players on this website that just say anyone who disagrees with them are trash, but I don't think Mew was like that at the start of the game so I don't know why he would so radically change.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:43 pm
by Nako
In post 2429, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2424, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2405, Nako wrote:Mew > kokichi > seph > oka > dva > gamma > pp > ofhrz > a50 > me
It's just Mew > seph > dva for me (also ofrhz was the NK; unless you want to hang her corpse by the neck just to make sure!) :P
Nako prob isnt even reading the game
You caught me

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:20 pm
by Mewtaph
UNVOTE:

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:29 pm
by Mewtaph
So I'm destroying the game if town because emotion is present in my posts? If that was a massive crime then why didn't you call out A50 for that when he first did that with Seph? Get real.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:37 pm
by Kokichi Oma
mew if you wanna save yourself, i'll join a seph wagon.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:59 pm
by Mewtaph
VOTE: Sephiroth

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:01 pm
by Gamma Emerald
‘-’

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:02 pm
by Mewtaph
.-.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:09 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2435, Mewtaph wrote:So I'm destroying the game if town because emotion is present in my posts? If that was a massive crime then why didn't you call out A50 for that when he first did that with Seph? Get real.
Uh that's not what I mean at all.

But lets say I did find A50's post bs, if you guys called him out on it, why do I need to pile on?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:13 pm
by Kokichi Oma
In post 2437, Mewtaph wrote:VOTE: Sephiroth
looooll you actually did it

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:14 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Mew you'd have to convince the others, but I'd likely lynch Seph today if more support

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:14 pm
by Nako
In post 2442, Kokichi Oma wrote:Mew you'd have to convince the others, but I'd likely lynch Seph today if more support
Same here.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:15 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I’ve never really gotten the Seph wagon tbh

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:21 pm
by DVa
Is Seph town, Gamma?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:47 pm
by Almost50
VOTE: Seph

I don't need convincing

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:40 pm
by Nako
In post 2446, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Seph

I don't need convincing
VOTE: Sephiroth
Me neither.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:44 pm
by OkaPoka
Why Seph over Mew?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:14 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2445, DVa wrote:Is Seph town, Gamma?
I kinda doubt he’s scum, so yeah?