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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:57 am
by Kmd4390
In post 2424, Creature wrote:Hmm, why did we lynch BEF again?
Mostly the obvious fake claim

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:10 am
by northsidegal
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[2] DrDolittle
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mbaki , Suka
[1] mbaki
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DrDolittle
[1] Varsoon
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OkaPoka
[1] Creature
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Varsoon

[2] Not Voting
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Creature , Kmd4390

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:19 am
by mbaki
It is also supported by Varsoon pushing DDL somewhat consistently.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:21 pm
by OkaPoka
Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:24 pm
by Varsoon
I'd prefer Creature, honestly.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:29 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2413, Creature wrote:Meh, I'm feeling like we should ignore the claims. The game was way more interesting without the claims.
??

is this meme or srs

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:41 pm
by Kmd4390
In post 2428, OkaPoka wrote:Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.
Not likely for me. I think I'm between mbaki and drdoolittle today. Leaning drdoolittle now because I'm not sure mbaki points out varsoon is likely town if mbaki is scum.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:44 pm
by OkaPoka
well i think that makes varsoon lynch mathematically impossible

time to actually reread

booo

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:01 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 1752, DrDolittle wrote:i still feel uneasy though.

if vork flips town, then tomorrow it feels almost natural to push bef.
but as creature echoed, I can also see them both as town.

this potentially hints at scum pushing narratives around and lining up easy mislynches.
In post 1756, DrDolittle wrote:I know! thats why Im feeling so uneasy

that's why Im really hoping vork flips red to calm my qualms
In post 1793, DrDolittle wrote:I think I would prefer a BEF lynch today.
1 - I think there's at most one scum in {BEF, Vork} and {BEF, mbaki}. That role flipping red clears our
2 - With conf bias, his wagon hop on me is extremely lazy and antitown ("for the sake of progress")
3 - I agree with what people said. BEF's reads today are extremely weak, and they feel more like continuing to set up mislynches.
4 - Meta-wise, this game reminds me of the last time BEF played scum, rather than BEF played town. His scum play seems more confident, vocally fights with frequent-posters, and then gradually shirks when there's more pressure.
5 - The story that rb-BEF teammates makes sense, although its weaker than rb-vork.

I'm still ok with Vork lynch, but right now, I would prefer a flip here instead. VOTE: bef
this progression is kinda weird in retrospect with vork at l1 its a bit hmm
In post 1964, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 1959, Varsoon wrote:I think scum'd pull off if they knew it'd flip town, if only to avoid catching flak for being on it.

I didn't like their early play and their constant interaction in the thread doesn't feel, to me, like they're trying to figure out the game nearly as much as it's just them setting up whatever lynch works.
also are you fucking kidding about this? How does pulling off vork not generate flak? Plus we rarely wagon analyze, and vork asso i could be sitting pretty rather than drawing attention to myself as scum.

there's no reason for scum-me to pull of vork + I was first vote anyways.

Of course, scum could know this and yadda yadda, so that is at most not alignment indicative.
example of a weird tone shifts in ddl isos

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:02 pm
by OkaPoka
ill skim mbaki next after i do some rl stuff

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:12 pm
by OkaPoka
mbaki, is creature still living up to your standards of him being in town meta?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:12 pm
by OkaPoka
oh yeah mbaki self voted

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:19 pm
by OkaPoka
mbaki could you remind me why you self voted and why it made sense for us to get rid of u

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:22 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2235, Creature wrote:Cool, because my role makes more sense in an nsg setup than yours.
In post 2294, Creature wrote:UNVOTE:

Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.
expand on these please

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:24 pm
by OkaPoka
kmd what's your schedule like

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:27 pm
by OkaPoka
In post 2431, Kmd4390 wrote:
In post 2428, OkaPoka wrote:Is this where you vote varsoon? I think this is where you vote varsoon.
Not likely for me. I think I'm between mbaki and drdoolittle today. Leaning drdoolittle now because I'm not sure mbaki points out varsoon is likely town if mbaki is scum.
but mbaki points out varsoon is town in a niche scenario so i don't get how this makes mbaki town? or varsoon town?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:31 pm
by Creature
In post 2438, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 2235, Creature wrote:Cool, because my role makes more sense in an nsg setup than yours.
In post 2294, Creature wrote:UNVOTE:

Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.
expand on these please
Initially I thought 5 town non-VTs sounded extreme, but let's take a look at what we have:

Follower = Like the only real important PR
Voyeur = Mostly useless
Universal Backup = Can at best backup follower
Commuter = Can only protect itself and can also burden investigatives
Ascetic = Can only burden investigatives

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:31 pm
by Creature
It looks really close to this game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=76996

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:32 pm
by OkaPoka
so is ur gamesolve involving us lynching two from the vt claim pool?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:32 pm
by Creature
(I was town ascetic there)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:32 pm
by Creature
In post 2443, OkaPoka wrote:so is ur gamesolve involving us lynching two from the vt claim pool?
No, I think we ignore claims (barring Suka's obviously).

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:33 pm
by OkaPoka
because?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:50 pm
by Kmd4390
In post 2439, OkaPoka wrote:kmd what's your schedule like
I work Wednesday and Thursday then I'm on vacation until like February 8ish
Oka wrote:but mbaki points out varsoon is town in a niche scenario so i don't get how this makes mbaki town? or varsoon town?
Hmm?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:52 pm
by OkaPoka
i dont get why mbaki gets towncred

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:55 pm
by northsidegal
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