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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:21 pm
by Pink Ball
But the only way you could KNOW half of my reads are right is you are scum and he's town tho

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:21 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Apparently I’m being replaced according to the replacement queue.

:shrug:

If you’re gonna force replace me, at least tell me. That’s just poor modding.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:21 pm
by Pink Ball
And you're assuming why I'm townreading him instead of asking, so either you care about my reads or you don't.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:24 pm
by Near x Mello
did i mention shallow

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:34 pm
by Tatsuya Kaname
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:35 pm
by Ankamius
Why are people voting for Gamma?

I am actually leaning town on that slot.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:36 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2425, Pink Ball wrote:But the only way you could KNOW half of my reads are right is you are scum and he's town tho
really

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:38 pm
by Near x Mello
In post 2430, Ankamius wrote:Why are people voting for Gamma?

I am actually leaning town on that slot.
iso his d2 content

~Near

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:43 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 2431, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2425, Pink Ball wrote:But the only way you could KNOW half of my reads are right is you are scum and he's town tho
really
No, I'm messing with Near. He thinks I'm stupid and I give him reasons to keep believing that. I <3 you Near even if L is much better than you and you caught Kira with a shitty gambit.

VOTE: Elena Fisher

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:44 pm
by Near x Mello
pink who is scum with elena

~Near

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:45 pm
by Chito and Yuuri
In post 2023, Gamma Emerald wrote:I like Near's case on Robert rn
In post 2181, Gamma Emerald wrote:FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello
Chito: I didn't like 2181 on its own, Torque and RP both didn't like the progression from 2023 to 2181.

I'm trying to decide how I feel about Gamma going back on to FL-slot as per and saying she will explain her thought process on 2181.

What makes you give Gamma a townlean, Ank?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:47 pm
by Pink Ball
Near if I tell you why I am townreading FL could you be respectful about it and don't call me stupid for it? I don't think my poor ego could survive to your wrath

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:47 pm
by Chito and Yuuri
In post 1126, Pink Ball wrote:That way you guys will focus on real scum, like Gamma who's vote on me is basically a scumclaim
Chito:
@PB, how has your read of Gamma developed since this point?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:47 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2432, Near x Mello wrote:
In post 2430, Ankamius wrote:Why are people voting for Gamma?

I am actually leaning town on that slot.
iso his d2 content

~Near
are there any specific posts that are especially indicative?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:48 pm
by Near x Mello
tbh though gamma initially being bad then changing his mind is consistent with d1 and his ssbf read

~Near

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:48 pm
by Near x Mello
In post 2436, Pink Ball wrote:Near if I tell you why I am townreading FL could you be respectful about it and don't call me stupid for it? I don't think my poor ego could survive to your wrath
sure tell me

~Near

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:49 pm
by Ankamius
In post 2435, Chito and Yuuri wrote:What makes you give Gamma a townlean, Ank?
the same metric I used to correctly read Gamma as scum last time I saw it is ringing town here.

I will grant that a quick look at her early posting makes it a lot less clear to me, but the recent posting doesn't feel like how I remember scum-her acting at all.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:50 pm
by Near x Mello
In post 2438, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2432, Near x Mello wrote:
In post 2430, Ankamius wrote:Why are people voting for Gamma?

I am actually leaning town on that slot.
iso his d2 content

~Near
are there any specific posts that are especially indicative?
what chito said plus my interactions with him where he shaded me and where he had no reads

~Near

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:51 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 2434, Near x Mello wrote:pink who is scum with elena

~Near
Robert and Gamma are both good candidates

P-edit Chito does this answer your question? Gamma was trying to save Vedith. And then voted him when he realized Vedith was unsavable (is that a word?)

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:54 pm
by Near x Mello
In post 1997, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: Robert
Reading Dunns case I happen to agree with him. I glazed over the Mort ate and now we're all caught up again. That does make question my RP read, but we'll revisit that later
this does not feel like a buddy vote

~Near

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:56 pm
by Ankamius
I have a hard time seeing scum-Gamma posting her most recent like 10-20 posts as a wagon on her starts to build up

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:58 pm
by Pink Ball
This is something I wrote during morality's "our channel is a masonry", and I'm adding something else that is part of my point:

I don't think that Morality is scum because he's risking being lynched by taking a stand and pushing who he thinks is scum. Mastina is right about players' profiles (she's wrong about mine tho and I'm happy that she is) and that Boon is a planner and loves to be the mastermind. That means he won't risk himself 'cause for him, being lynched is equal to losing the game. It doesn't matter if his team wins at the end, he wasn't the one who got it, unless he did a gambit that implied him being lynched. But if he thinks he's the best player of his scumteam, he doesn't risk his own slot so early in the game. And he always thinks he's the best player of his scumteam.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:59 pm
by Pink Ball
In post 2444, Near x Mello wrote:
In post 1997, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: Robert
Reading Dunns case I happen to agree with him. I glazed over the Mort ate and now we're all caught up again. That does make question my RP read, but we'll revisit that later
this does not feel like a buddy vote

~Near
Why not?

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:59 pm
by Chito and Yuuri
In post 2438, Ankamius wrote:are there any specific posts that are especially indicative?
Chito: was for you, Ank.

Unfortunately it does also then require you to find Flavor Leaf's case on N&M, which is summarized in . So the problems people have with Gamma's slot hinge in part in how you think Gamma would respond to 2187.

My concerns with Gamma sheeping FL on N&M partly hinge on how Gamma presented her read of SSBF (Vedith redflip slot), which you can see here:

Spoiler:
In post 349, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also SSBF proly town
In post 408, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 382, Torque wrote:
In post 349, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also SSBF proly town
why
I liked what they were saying.
In post 469, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 438, Torque wrote:Gamma what of ssbf's catch up did you like lol i dont get it
In a sec
In post 553, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.


In short, for our previous redflip, Gamma said she liked the slot, stalled on explaining why, then backpedaled by saying she townread the slot only because of wallposts, which seems loosely similar to what she was doing irt to FL's posts on N&M this dayphase.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:00 pm
by Near x Mello
except he probably does make risky and crazy plays like this, so no. He does think hes great like you said, and thats exactly why he didnt think hed actually be at risk here.

~Near

@pink