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ok here's my progression


it basically went "i townread skitter" to "i townread skitter but there was some stuff that made me kinda paranoid" and then when skitter abandoned her push on TW that's when it turned into "okay i seriously think skitter is probably scum here"

In post 2405, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2389, Raven Branwen wrote:I have never pushed you and Aldus together. The contradiction is you finding that scummy but still doing that to me, when there has been 0 flips. That’s why I tr Lillith and Datisi and duckling over you specifically because of that because you pushing us together while still apparently sr duckling looks like chainsawing to me. I like you tonally but I don’t know if that should outweigh that. If you were in my position, would you honestly be tr you for that?

i didn't say you pushed me/aldu, but like 5 other people have
i think me/aldu is patently ridiculous, and i explained why at length
i also think that aldu's interactions with you are partner-y

it's not like i said 'all partner reads are scummy', so i'm kinda baffled that you're reading this as a contradiction

i don't think that aldu's read on me here really follows any sort of natural progression beyond 'welp a lot of people want to vote me and we're getting near end-of-day so let me manufacture a sr on someone who's under a lot of suspicion, who i'd been defending until she said she was willing to vote me to end the day'

I think a me/Aldus partner read is insane and I really don’t understand why you think I should tr you here for deathtunnelling me, pushing me together with Aldus and refusing to vote duckling? I think it reads patently dishonest of you to mischaracterize this as an omgus. If you were only just voting me/had me in your PoE, weren’t pushing me together with Aldus when there - I’ll say this again - have been 0 freaking flips!. were not still hard sr duckling but refusing to vote him, no I 100% would not have voted you or even be considering it now but I hones don’t know why you think I should be tr you for any of this? Would you be honestly if the situations were reversed?

Fmpov, it reads like you’re chainsawing. Whatever your alignment, seriously how are you not seeing this? I haven’t voted for either of you yet because I honestly have no clue who to vote for. Don’t you think scum!me would already be voting you? That’s precisely what has me so tied up in knots. You expect me not to vote you without giving me a single reason not to and I’m seriously trying to sort you but you aren’t doing a goodamned thing to help make this any easier.

In post 2419, skitter30 wrote:how did you go from 'town but paranoid' to 'welp she's scum let me vote her', exactly?

pedit htat doesn't even make sense either ???

In post 2422, skitter30 wrote:ok, so yeah, you don't actually have an explanation?

i've been under fire for days now, and i've been scumreading you since like thursday, so, like, try again ?

i need to sober up but these are notttttttttttttttttttttttttt townposts

i mean, i explained p clearly why i dropped the tw thing and went to raven, and then you, and it was largely cuz you had some p strong associatives with someone i was scumreading; you reacted to my raven push kinda exactly like i'd expect a partner to react

and calling that out is what prompted you to drop your townread of me, so from my pov it kinda looks like i was right

In post 2410, skitter30 wrote:hi and raven's positioning on me on this page is sus as hell also ?

Are you trying to get me to vote you? All I know is your posts are making my head hurt and I want it to stop. :/

In post 2429, Raven Branwen wrote:Are you trying to get me to vote you? All I know is your posts are making my head hurt and I want it to stop. :/

you're p clearly ramping up towards that, yeah

and the people who are voting me (or are indicating they're about to) are incidentally the people i'm scumreading so like ...

2230 is now 70% sarcastic

wee snaw

i realize that post does nothing but potentially give scum!skitter more ammo to completely obliterate me in a 1v1 in lylo

but that's okay, i live life on the edge

In post 2426, Raven Branwen wrote:I think a me/Aldus partner read is insane and I really don’t understand why you think I should tr you here for deathtunnelling me, pushing me together with Aldus and refusing to vote duckling? I think it reads patently dishonest of you to mischaracterize this as an omgus. If you were only just voting me/had me in your PoE, weren’t pushing me together with Aldus when there - I’ll say this again - have been 0 freaking flips!. were not still hard sr duckling but refusing to vote him, no I 100% would not have voted you or even be considering it now but I hones don’t know why you think I should be tr you for any of this? Would you be honestly if the situations were reversed?

as soon as i called out a read on you, aldu's interactions with me changed:

he was willing to vote tw when that *had not* happened before, despite me pushing it forever, which basically read to me like he wanted to redirect me off of you and back onto tw?

the timing is incredibly suspect, no? he utterly refused tw but as soon as i said i was sus of you his townread on me magically strengthened and whe was willing to vote tw

like, from my pov, how ought i be reading that?

this is not omgus (i don't even know where omgus came into this ?)

In post 2433, Datisi wrote:i realize that post does nothing but potentially give scum!skitter more ammo to completely obliterate me in a 1v1 in lylo

but that's okay, i live life on the edge

i'm not 1v1'ing you in lylo, i very likely don't make lylo

ok can you just tell me if you're planning on voting me or not?

the jury is still out, skitt

i'm telling them to hurry up

they tell me to piss off

they're very mean

In post 2430, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2429, Raven Branwen wrote:Are you trying to get me to vote you? All I know is your posts are making my head hurt and I want it to stop. :/

you're p clearly ramping up towards that, yeah

and the people who are voting me (or are indicating they're about to) are incidentally the people i'm scumreading so like ...

No, you’d be very wrong about that. What I’d really really like is if you’re town to throw me some kind of bone, because you are giving me every reason rn to vote you and I honestly don’t know what to do. I definitely don’t want to mislynch you here but I know your read on me is wrong. I’m hesitating because i know I get pocketed way too easy and that’s seriously concerning me, that might be happening, because scum know what a super easy pocket I am. Like how did I not see Dunn’s claiming to invest me as not a blatant scumtell?

In post 2396, Raven Branwen wrote:I thought you had him as a scumlean, thanks for clarifying then. My only hesitation with Skitter is would she deliberately act this scummy right next to deadline or could she possibly be faking me out and baiting me? Her play here is so super weird I can’t make sense of it. But then she apparently has quite a large scumrange. I dunno. You keep sounding better and she keeps sounding worse but that seriously confuses me. *sigh*.

@Lillith, @Datisi, @duckling, @Pooky, what do you guys all think?

I think skitter-scum might be so frustrated with Aldus-scum that she’s trying to get evicted before him so she won’t have to play much more of this game.

k

i would for obvious reasons vastly prefer if u stayed on aldu (and/or were willing to vote raven)

pooky what the fuck

In post 2437, Raven Branwen wrote:No, you’d be very wrong about that. What I’d really really like is if you’re town to throw me some kind of bone, because you are giving me every reason rn to vote you and I honestly don’t know what to do. I definitely don’t want to mislynch you here but I know your read on me is wrong. I’m hesitating because i know I get pocketed way too easy and that’s seriously concerning me, that might be happening, because scum know what a super easy pocket I am. Like how did I not see Dunn’s claiming to invest me as not a blatant scumtell?

i mean i don't know what you want from me.
i'm not going to change my reads to assauge you or to make you feel better about me

i think you/aldu are partners
i think if you two aren't literally svs aldu is proabalby scum anyways
if it isn't aldu/raven i think there's a very strong chance tw is town

i tr everyone else i think

In post 2428, skitter30 wrote:i mean, i explained p clearly why i dropped the tw thing and went to raven, and then you, and it was largely cuz you had some p strong associatives with someone i was scumreading; you reacted to my raven push kinda exactly like i'd expect a partner to react

and calling that out is what prompted you to drop your townread of me, so from my pov it kinda looks like i was right

quote where you explained it.

In post 2434, skitter30 wrote:as soon as i called out a read on you, aldu's interactions with me changed:

he was willing to vote tw when that *had not* happened before, despite me pushing it forever, which basically read to me like he wanted to redirect me off of you and back onto tw?

the timing is incredibly suspect, no? he utterly refused tw but as soon as i said i was sus of you his townread on me magically strengthened and whe was willing to vote tw

quote where I said I was willing to vote TW.

it's all a matter of how much stock am i willing to put into my bugspray read when i don't know how to explain it to myself

like, with all the mess that's been going on, i want to believe skitt/duck/aldus/raven hits both scum and that that's game

but what if it's not

In post 2438, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think skitter-scum might be so frustrated with Aldus-scum that she’s trying to get evicted before him so she won’t have to play much more of this game.

oh man am i frustrated

but:

- i'm not scum
- aldu is probably scum
- in a me/aldu universe the game doesn't look like this (lol)
- even if one of us gets bussed it's not me, as i'm p much always endgame scum in this scenario
- given taht i absolutely know better than to turn an aldu/me scumgame into this sort of shitshow i'm getting really, really annoyed that people keep pushing this, especially people who know better

if i had to lock in a coalition right now i think it would be dats/lilith/s_s/raven/dsjstr

i wonder if that's a winning coalition

probably not

[quote="In post 2445, Datisi"][/quote]
i'd heal this coalition

In post 2434, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2426, Raven Branwen wrote:I think a me/Aldus partner read is insane and I really don’t understand why you think I should tr you here for deathtunnelling me, pushing me together with Aldus and refusing to vote duckling? I think it reads patently dishonest of you to mischaracterize this as an omgus. If you were only just voting me/had me in your PoE, weren’t pushing me together with Aldus when there - I’ll say this again - have been 0 freaking flips!. were not still hard sr duckling but refusing to vote him, no I 100% would not have voted you or even be considering it now but I hones don’t know why you think I should be tr you for any of this? Would you be honestly if the situations were reversed?

as soon as i called out a read on you, aldu's interactions with me changed:

he was willing to vote tw when that *had not* happened before, despite me pushing it forever, which basically read to me like he wanted to redirect me off of you and back onto tw?

the timing is incredibly suspect, no? he utterly refused tw but as soon as i said i was sus of you his townread on me magically strengthened and whe was willing to vote tw

like, from my pov, how ought i be reading that?

this is not omgus (i don't even know where omgus came into this ?)

Because you don’t see why I wouldn’t be tr someone who’s deathtunnelling me, so you think Aldus’ switch on you somehow makes ME look independently scummy? I know you’re not actually saying this obviously but I don’t see why his behaviour - considering he’s - shall I say this for the gazillionth time, UNflipped - has jack to do with me.

like i'm fne if i'm the paranoia deepwolf

just like
please elimiante skitter before me because :?::?:

In post 2445, Datisi wrote:if i had to lock in a coalition right now i think it would be dats/lilith/s_s/raven/dsjstr

i wonder if that's a winning coalition

probably not

I am legit sad you still don’t trust me